PILING ON THE AG Ashcroft opponents hail from right, left

Denver Post ^ | Thursday, February 27, 2003 | Diane Carman

[Liz]

Have at it FReepers.

[Liz]

pour vous.......

[yoe]

How quickly we forget Bill Clinton's EO's giving FEMA about the same powers as the Patriot Act, only the words are now clear in their meaning, not hidden language as in Clinton's EO's which also included then AG Janet Reno.

[concerned about politics]

How quickly we forget Bill Clinton's EO's giving FEMA about the same powers as the Patriot Act, only the words are now clear in their meaning, not hidden language as in Clinton's EO's which also included then AG Janet Reno.

Yeh, and we weren't even threatened back then. Maybe the American Muslim Alliance, Human Rights Watch, Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and more than 100 other groups didn't think it was "hip" to complain about it then. Now we have a real pro-American Republican in power. That's diff, don't ya know.

[Liz]

Thank God you didn't forget. Thanks for the post.

[concerned about politics]

opponents hail from right, but overwhelmingly from the left

Not that it matters. They don't like the American flag, either. They don't even like themselves!

[jammer]

Well, maybe not all the organizations complained about FEMA, but many of them screamed bloody murder. I remember, for example, Schlafly and an NRA spokesman raising hell on the now defunct, but best ever talk radio program, Carl Wiglesworth WOAI program in San Antonio. As much as you might want to, you can't make this a case of selective objection or johnny-come-lately.

[anniegetyourgun]

"It feels pre-internment. I mean, does anybody really think this government is beyond rounding up all the Iraqi nationals and locking them away someplace?"

Yes....unless, of course, all the Iraqi nationals violate U.S. law. And that's not likely. After all, we didn't lock up all Afghani nations.....

[4Freedom]

"Now we have a real pro-American Republican in power."

Pro-American? Are those citizens of countries in North, South or Central America that you're referring to? ;^)

With all due respect, what this country needs is a conservative Republican that's real pro-taxpaying-citizens of the United States of America.

Bush is not.

Bush is hanging the taxpaying citizens of the USA out to dry.

Disgruntled, taxpaying, U.S. citizens might just be the next group designated as potential terrorists by the Bush Justice Dept. and the IRS.

Keep your powder dry. Defend the 2nd Amendment. ;^)

[anniegetyourgun]

nations = nationals

[concerned about politics]

Bush is hanging the taxpaying citizens of the USA out to dry.

Sorry. I'm not that paranoid. Thanks anyway. Maybe you can try someone else?

[Cold Heat]

Now, as the powers of the original Patriot Act are being exploited -

Yah got me here............Sounds to me like the real problem is in between the ears!

[4Freedom]

"Sorry. I'm not that paranoid."

The question is are you that gullible? ;^)

[MEGoody]

A small number of people share an opinion which the left happens to agree with, and it becomes a 'movement'. Perhaps they should put their 'movements' in the toilet where they belong.

[concerned about politics]

The question is are you that gullible? ;^)

Not at all. I brushed off your post, didn't I?

[MEGoody]

"Bush is hanging the taxpaying citizens of the USA out to dry."

Can you be a little more specific about what you mean by this? What specifically is concerning you?

[4Freedom]

"Can you be a little more specific...?"

Can you name an instance where Bush has demonstrated fiscal conservatism? That would be the shorter list, if you could even make such a list. ;^)

[Mudboy Slim]

So what could possibly compel the Gun Owners of America to collaborate with the ACLU?

Simple. A common enemy.

Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Interesting...MUD

[AppyPappy]

I'm still waiting to hear what Ashcroft has DONE that makes people think he is the boogeyman.

[KDD]

Welcome to the American Gestapo

John Ashcroft's Amerika

The attorney general is a zealot and zealots are always dangerous – even if they are supposed to play on your side of the fence.

Since 9-11, Ashcroft has expanded the ability of the U.S. Department of Justice to spy on ordinary Americans, authorizing more wiretaps and surveillance than any attorney general in modern times.

He has authorized the creation of massive databases to track American gun owners, American travel and the day-to-day financial transactions of all Americans. The new databases will allow Uncle Sam to know how much money you have in the bank, how you spend it, where you go on any given day of the week, what guns you own, what cars you drive and when and where you buy gas, groceries or condoms.

“This brings back the old days of Hoover and his personal hit lists,” says retired FBI agent Alan Matthews. “Most of us had hoped those days were long gone.”

Terrorism succeeds when the victims of terrorists change their way of life, when fear dictates policy and hatred replaces reason. Terrorism wins when freedom becomes secondary to the cause.

Welcome to John Ashcroft’s America. It ain’t the America envisioned by the founding fathers in the past but, sadly, it is the America of the future