Pilots' Alliance 'Shocked Beyond Belief' by TSA Disclosure

CNSNews.com ^ | 2/25/03 | Jeff Johnson

[eno_]

Tell her what you think: heather.rosenker@tsa.dot.gov

Also, she is no stranger to public relations disasters, and her husband is a lobbyist. Hopefully this will be a career take-down for her.

[Cvengr]

Concur, Bush should fire him and then unilaterally command the rule be overhauled and authorize the pilots to carry a weapon at their discretion throughout the cabin. I believe present laws regarding the authority of the plane's captain already allow this. It's only been specific actions overriding the captain's authority which cause any debate in the first place.

Same legal basis as Admiralty Law I believe.

[4Freedom]

Or, you can call Heather Rosenker or Nico Melendez, of the TSA Press Dept., at 202-385-1800.

[4Freedom]

"Concur, Bush should fire him..."

Concur, then Bush should fire himself. Maybe Cheney can do better or at least not do any worse.

[conservativemusician]

Can someone tell me just what the hell is the point of having the weapon if it's got to be locked up if the cockpit door opens?

[Cvengr]

So why do you believe Bush should exit the Presidency?

[Copernicus]

This is very good. The more the TSA pursue a political agenda the deeper the hole they dig for themselves.

An "issue" weapon of the kind they propose is more dangerous than no weapon at all as most CCH Permit Holders realize.

The charming truth about bureaucracies is they don't realize they are bureaucracies until they review their bureaucratic behaviour.

Best regards,

[Mulder]

Can anyone explain why this ineffective, ultra-liberal, anti-freedom Clinton holdover is still in the Bush administration!!!

Because Bush is anti-Freedom just like his predacessor and just like Poppy.

[jimt]

TSA = Totalitarian Sh!!heads Agency

[4Freedom]

Our politicians were trying to fool us, again and someone 'let the cat out of the bag'. And before the next election. Someone's in big trouble for that. ;^)

[Mulder]

W needs to fire the turd.

Just like he needs to fire the turd that has implemented RANDOM and WARRANTLESS searches of vehicles approaching airports to pick up or drop off people.

It's totally illegally and totally unconstitutional, but that didn't stop the statists in the Bush administration from implementing it.

No one was fired over it, nor will anyone be because Bush is either a statist or too stupid to realize what is going on.

[4Freedom]

Let me see if I can just link you to the last littany of reasons I rattled off on a prior thread rather than retyping it.

The shorter list would be of reasons to keep him as President.

1) He's younger and in better physical health than Cheney.

I didn't say it would be a good reason to keep him. ;^)

Go ahead, you list a few.

[NMFXSTC]

Aside from the racial imbalance, it would be interesting to examine these TSA folks (knoqn to the pilots as "Thousands Standing Around") from an academic perspective.

It does seem that most are uneducated (nothing beyond HS), middle aged, realtiviely unsuccessful, physically compromised (overweight, emphysemic, gout ridden), and as poorly trained and competent as their "plans"). Now...doesn't a significant number of our commercial pilot crowd come directly from thr military, where weapons training and carrying a side arm is standard fare? Mindless govewrnment control,"study" and layer upon layer of inefficiency results in an ongoing condition where a box cutter can overpower an aircrew...something is seriously wronmg here!

[Triple]

Two questions:

Who in congress inserted "passenger", and what the hell were they thinking?

Who is TSA spokesperson Rosenker speaking for? (Ridge, Bush, or some other dumbass)

[4Freedom]

"It does seem that most are uneducated (nothing beyond HS),..."

Applicants for jobs as Security Screeners, with the TSA, needed neither a HS diploma nor a GED, as long as they had at least 1 year of security experience. No lie.

I wonder, if they even checked that applicants had gone to Grammar School at all.

"...TSA is hiring the best of the best."

Ya gotta love that Bush.

LOL!

[steve-b]

There are a number of differences between passenger and cargo airliners that Price believes support his argument, including:

• Cargo planes never have Federal Air Marshals on board;
  
• Cockpit doors of cargo planes have not been retrofitted to make them
  stronger, some cargo planes have no cockpit doors at all;
  
• Stowaways on cargo flights are not as rare as the public might imagine;
  
• Cargo ramp areas are not as secure as passenger ramps; and
  
• Thousands of people, many of whom are unknown to one another, work on
  cargo ramps during nightly sorting of cargo, creating a ready opportunity for
  terrorists to stowaway on a cargo flight.
  

• Cargo planes do not have passengers who would attempt to stomp hijackers into tomato paste, possibly solving the whole problem to begin with and almost certainly giving the pilot additional time to prepare.

[steve-b]

Do any bureaucrats even think anymore?

When ordered to do something they don't want to do, they can think of ways around the order so ingeniously as to make Stephen Hawking look like Ernest P. Worrell.

[BartMan1]

Bumbling bureaucracy bump....

[4Freedom]

"Now...doesn't a significant number of our commercial pilot crowd come directly from the military,...?"

A significant number of TSA employees come directly from the military, as well.

I believe you'll find that this latest 'Reserves call-up' decimated the TSA staff at a lot of the Nation's airports.

There appears to be an unintended consequence to giving a hiring preference to veterans among applicants seeking federal employment. There appears to be a number of folks enlisting in our armed services for only that reason.

Has John Muhammed ever said why he enlisted that you've heard?