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My editorial is that this AP article never made it to the mainstream media.
1 posted on 02/20/2003 10:55:17 AM PST by honway
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My editorial is that I will go to my grave believing that the evil Clintons had more to do with this suicide than any bruhaha over ribbons.

That is, IF it was a suicide at all -- and if it was a suicide, was it just possibly a Rommel-style suicide (either you kill yourself, or we will do it for you)?
2 posted on 02/20/2003 10:58:21 AM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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I don't believe for a second Boorda "killed himself" over these medals.
3 posted on 02/20/2003 10:58:45 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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And who was one of his chief accusers......none other than HACKWORTH......
6 posted on 02/20/2003 11:06:01 AM PST by OldFriend (Pray)
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To: honway
Here we go again ... Bump !
8 posted on 02/20/2003 11:12:26 AM PST by Ben Bolt
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He was shot in the chest. Add his name to the Clinton death list.
9 posted on 02/20/2003 11:12:52 AM PST by marron
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He's dead Jim.
12 posted on 02/20/2003 11:17:23 AM PST by jriemer
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I met Admiral Boorda twice when I was an active duty Marine. He alsways made you feel like you knew each other like best friends. He was charismatic and a born leader.

I never beleived for a second that it was over ribbons. Something was going on behind the scenes. I don't think the truth will ever be sifted out of the trail of death and destruction the clintonistas left in their wake.

13 posted on 02/20/2003 11:17:56 AM PST by ChuckSnow5 (When at sea. avoid land.)
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Wasn't there something about a letter Boorda wrote to the sailors that was never released? I wonder what it said.
15 posted on 02/20/2003 11:18:26 AM PST by aristeides
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That SOB, Hackworth, can kiss my @$$. He's the one that started the ball rolling that led to Adm. Boorda's death.
24 posted on 02/20/2003 11:30:05 AM PST by Junior (I want my, I want my, I want my chimpanzees)
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I think there's much more to this than a couple of ribbons. Since the regulations were complicated, Boorda simply could have said he was mistaken and removed the Vs. There's no dishonor in an honest mistake.
25 posted on 02/20/2003 11:34:07 AM PST by Cicero
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1996.

Ron Brown had that "accident".

TWA Flight 800 had that "center fuel tank explosion".

Admiral Boorda committed "suicide".

traitorrapist42 and Hitlery das Butch von Buchenvald were re-elected.

I have written Hackworth about Boorda's death and the role Hackworth's big mouth played in it, but this big hero did not reply.

Zumwalt's stipulation was widely known yet suppressed.

Recall that then-Secretary of the Navy John Dalton ran a Texas savings and loan (Sequin Savings Association) that failed at a cost to the taxpayers of $100 million.

Boorda was something special and vipers like Hackworth and Dalton deserve immediate seating in Dante's club for their role in his death.

26 posted on 02/20/2003 11:36:24 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: Das Butch von Buchenvald)
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Wasn't Hillary! part of the chorus calling for Boorda to resign over this? Who was the Senator or Congfressman that Rush parodies asking Craig Livingston to "do like Admiral Boorda did and commit suicide" instead of bringing dishonor to the Clintons?
31 posted on 02/20/2003 11:43:22 AM PST by SW6906
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ping
38 posted on 02/20/2003 11:55:36 AM PST by windcliff
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Good indication of the main concern of star people, past and present, is when they become zealous over medal wearing. Sad
44 posted on 02/20/2003 12:07:03 PM PST by cynicom
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"What office do I go to to get my reputation back?"

--Ray Donovan, Labor Secretary, Reagan Administration
57 posted on 02/20/2003 12:37:05 PM PST by RichInOC (Ray Donovan was lucky. At least he was around to ask.)
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Far fewew suicides at high gov't levels since Bush took office. Coincidence ?
75 posted on 02/20/2003 1:19:13 PM PST by VRWC_minion ( Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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Men, generally, commit suicide by a shot to the head [women to the chest]. Unusual suicide!
76 posted on 02/20/2003 1:23:30 PM PST by Chapita
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Wearing an unauthorized decoration is a severe breach of military protocol.
. . . not to be compared with treating an officer as a WH waiter, but serious.

109 posted on 02/20/2003 2:23:35 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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Your editorial would be mistaken as you obviously weren't paying attention in 1998. This was covered quite extensively by the lamestream media as were developments in Slick Willie's impeachment which was occuring at the same time. Daltons' and Zumwalts' efforts/memos notwithstanding, the Board for Corrections of Naval Records denied the request to alter Boordas' records to reflect that he was entitled to wear the Combat "V". He was not. The following was published in July of 1999:

Boorda's Navy Record Remains Same
Admiral Committed Suicide After Questions Arose About His Combat Decorations

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (July 3) - The official record of Adm. Jeremy ''Mike'' Boorda, who committed suicide amid questions about his combat decorations, will continue to show he did not earn them, the Navy has decided.

A board of three civilians recommended last month that the record remain unaltered, Navy spokesman Capt. Mark Van Dyke said Friday. The ruling was upheld by Carolyn Becraft, who has the final say as assistant secretary of the Navy for manpower and reserve affairs.

Boorda, who joined the Navy at 16 and became the only enlisted man to rise to chief of naval operations, took his life in 1996 after 40 years of service. He was about to be asked by Newsweek reporters about why he wore Combat Vs - tiny bronze letters standing for ''valor.''

The decorations were attached to a Navy Achievement Medal awarded in 1968 and a Navy Commendation Medal awarded in 1973.

In a suicide note ''to my sailors,'' Boorda said he felt disgraced.

Last year, then-Navy Secretary John Dalton placed a memo in Boorda's file - backed by another memo from Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr., the Vietnam War-era chief of naval operations - that declared him eligible to have worn the decorations.

Dalton said only the Navy review board could officially change the record to say Boorda had the right to wear them.

The Boorda family petitioned the Board for Corrections of the Naval Records last September to change the record and show he was entitled to wear the decorations.

''The final decision was there was no error or injustice in Adm. Boorda's record and the panel was unanimous in their recommendation,'' Van Dyke said.

He provided the information to The Associated Press after an inquiry prompted by the state of Illinois' decision to award a $20,000 grant for a memorial in Boorda's hometown, Momence, about 50 miles south of Chicago.

Boorda removed the decorations from his ribbons in 1995, on the advice of the Navy's Office of Awards and Special Projects.

Dalton's memo says the citations justifying the awards ''plainly state they were awarded for service including combat operations.'' Zumwalt's memo said it was ''appropriate, justified and proper'' for Boorda to have the decorations.

Wearing an unauthorized decoration is a severe breach of military protocol.

The question you should be asking is why that decision never made it to the mainstream media.

June 25, 1998: The Supreme Court rules 6-3 that attorney-client privilege extends beyond the grave, exempting Vince Foster's conversations with his lawyers from being called as evidence in Ken Starr's presidential investigations.

June 25, 1998: White House communications aide Sidney Blumenthal testifies before Ken Starr's grand jury for the third time. Blumenthal complains that Starr's inquiry focused on what the White House was saying about his prosecution rather than Blumenthal's conversations with the president.

116 posted on 02/20/2003 3:24:42 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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149 posted on 02/20/2003 6:09:59 PM PST by Bob J
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