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I collected this information and thought that others might be interested in it as well as myself.
1 posted on 02/16/2003 2:16:45 PM PST by vannrox
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Bookmarked.
30 posted on 02/16/2003 3:52:09 PM PST by boris
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On B5, one way of going faster than light was Hyperspace.
32 posted on 02/16/2003 3:59:07 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ad Astra!)
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The short answer NO!
33 posted on 02/16/2003 3:59:11 PM PST by jerod
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Are you MAD? DON`T ANY OF YOU PEOPLE KNOW WE NEED DILITHIUM CRYSTALS??? KHAAAAAN! YOUR-KIL-LING-HEEEEEEEEEEEER!!

37 posted on 02/16/2003 4:05:19 PM PST by metalboy
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Your neutrino sources are rather dated. They figured out where the missing solar neutrinos are. The "missing" ones change flavor on the way to earth. IIRC, some experiments show a very small positive (not complex) mass for neutrinos as well. Maybe ping Physicist?
41 posted on 02/16/2003 4:20:57 PM PST by VadeRetro
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I would really rather have a halodeck,(sp)now that would have possibilties!!
45 posted on 02/16/2003 4:29:05 PM PST by oregon conservative (I'm in Oregon, shields up and phasers on stun!)
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Sorry to bring all you starry-eyed dreamers down to earth, but the real limiting factor in all of this will be economics. Any travel even approaching -- not to mention exceeding -- the speed of light will require enormous amounts of energy. Last I checked energy still cost money. Even if we finally get fusion reactors, energy will not be "free". The economic fact of life is that resources are not infinite, and thus they do have a cost. There is no such thing as a free lunch. So the question thus becomes: what economic benefit will be gained by tooling around the universe to pay for the enormous quantities of energy that will need to be allocated for this project?
46 posted on 02/16/2003 4:31:15 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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I, for one, would not want to become a tunneling photon until my kids are in college :^D
52 posted on 02/16/2003 4:55:38 PM PST by a_Turk (Ready? Set? Wait!!)
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What a terrific effort, vannrox. VERY interesting; greatly appreciated.

It's been decades since I was purported to be a physics major in college, but I can only guess that such a compendium would be invaluable to many, many current students of physics.

Bookmarked and bumped.

[As an aside, I certainly cannot prove it, but I remain convinced that we will eventually find ways to achieve FTL speeds and somehow keep Einstein's work intact. Don't ask me how.........just a gut feeling.:) ]

53 posted on 02/16/2003 4:56:54 PM PST by RightOnline
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Ping-a-ling ... thought you might find this thread of interest. Stunning links herein
57 posted on 02/16/2003 5:28:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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That's so very three dimensional.
58 posted on 02/16/2003 5:29:36 PM PST by TheHound
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Not in my life time...so my answer is no...
66 posted on 02/16/2003 6:02:30 PM PST by Hotdog
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No and Yes.
79 posted on 02/16/2003 7:07:43 PM PST by semaj
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Interesting article, thanks.

If the human mind can create things out of pure thought, perhaps there are many things that can be done (in this case, space travel) that are outside the physical, as defined by the current set of equations we use to describe the universe. I was thinking particularly of the "empty set", and how the mind creates something out of nothing.

I had to do a little research (it's been a while since I went to school):

"Von Neumann [VON NEUMANN 1923] proposed that all numbers could be bootstrapped out of the empty set by the operations of the mind. The mind observes the empty set. The mind's act of observation causes the appearance another set - the set of empty sets. The set of empty sets is not empty, because it contains one non-thing - the empty set. The mind has thus generated the number 1 by producing the set containing the empty set.

Stated algorithmically the operation is:

> STEP 0 {} Empty set has 0 parts.

> STEP 1 > { {} } Mind generates set containing empty set, which has one part.

> STEP 2 { {}, { {} }} Mind generates set containing two parts, the set and the set containing the empty set.

etc, etc"

Analogies abound in literature, such as the flashing, seemingly instantaneous travel of angels, as fast as a thought. Maybe they don't use the same "set" of assumptions (bad pun, there). Hey, I like to think of myself as a pretty level-headed character: I usually don't go off on these tangents, but you started it! :)

84 posted on 02/16/2003 7:27:42 PM PST by P.O.E. (Liberate Iraq!)
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bump - so i can find this and mess with somebody's head tomorrow at work.
88 posted on 02/16/2003 7:41:49 PM PST by error99 ("I believe stupidity should hurt."...used by permission from null and void all copyrights apply...)
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No.
95 posted on 02/16/2003 8:27:52 PM PST by Kay Soze
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bump .....
99 posted on 02/16/2003 9:03:08 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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bttt for later read.
102 posted on 02/16/2003 11:25:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Let the liberals whine -- it's what they do.)
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Zephram Cochrane, the John Wayne of space, invents warp drive in the 2060s right after WWIII kills half a billion people (Star Trek: First Contact). Gosh, I thought everyone knew that.

All we need is some antimatter injectors and a warp coil. Someone? Anyone?
105 posted on 02/17/2003 5:49:22 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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My wife can spend faster than light.


110 posted on 01/14/2005 6:38:11 PM PST by Drango (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun.)
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