Senate to Recess without Action on Estrada Nomination

CNSNews.com ^ | Feb.15, 2003 | Christine Hall

[VRWC_minion]

Do you really believe any means to justify the end?

No, but switching strategy without giving up is hardly an example of when its wrong. Your problem is you not only exagerate the offense you wrongly extrapolate it as assuming that Frist is as bad as Lott.

Your overplaying the issue.

[justshutupandtakeit]

No one underestimates the importance of this. However, what is happening now is the result of the RATs tin ear wrt the electorate. Thus, it will help us for them to do this for a while. When your enemy is digging himself into a hole give him another shovel.

Do you really think they are helping themselves with this petulant extra-constitutional abuse of the Senate's power to "advise and consent?" This was never planned by the founding fathers when they gave the Senate this vital power.

[sirchtruth]

Your problem is you not only exagerate the offense you wrongly extrapolate it as assuming that Frist is as bad as Lott.

You really have no idea do you?

My argument has nothing to do with stategy, Estrada confirmation or First trustworthyness.

It's simple: Don't make a threat you can't back up or it will just make you LOOK like a trasparent recreant.

[TLBSHOW]

You may find this thread of interest and the source to it goes to more....

The Constitution in Article II, Section 2, clause 2, reads, He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. The advice and consent on judges of the Supreme court is the issue at hand and provides the wedding of the Senate and the Court, brought about by the XVII Amendment as will be seen in the next week’s article.

The Senate members in all of their supposed wisdom do not understand their duties, much less the entire Constitution. That is painfully obvious when they speak and write. Their duties are advice and consent with nothing more and nothing less. The word advice causes a bit of a problem but the definition of it is to give opinion and on that they fall short of understanding. They think their duty is to dictate to the President what person is sent or who is not sent for consent. The duty they have is part of the balance to protect the Constitution, not an exercise in choosing those with the proper socialist ideology, which they favor.

The Senate, the President, and Judges
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/843984/posts

[JohnG45]

Oh! What a brilliant retort. It seems remarkably similar, in words and content, to some of my posts to you. Did you ever hear that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? As I reread some of this thread, I realized that I am not the only one who questions your "logic." Seems to me that you have been in this position (having to defend the indefensible) before. Maybe you are in over your head. Whatever, I still await the answers to my questions. They are a long time in coming.

[LS]

If anyone is imitating, it is apparently you. So thanks for the flattery.

As for my "logic," I don't care who questions it. I only care about results. At the end of the day, Estrada will be confirmed, whatever strategy is needed to get him in. As for your "questions," I am not required to answer anything based on speculation, which is all you present.

[justshutupandtakeit]

The RATS think it says "advise and consent or obstruct if desired."

[JohnG45]

OK! We will ask you to prove your contention.

Point specifically to where I imitated or used words or thoughts that you had used in composing any of my posts.

And while you are researching that, please answer my previous questions which are still on the table some 36 or so hours after all of this started.

What is the problem? My answer is that you probably have never had an original thought in your life. You steal the ideas of others and create nothing of your own. That is why when you are asked a pointed question, you get confused.

I finally figured what the "LS" stands for - Lost in Space.

[LS]

Dang. You got me. Not an original thought. Ooops. Can't use that. That was yours.

[JohnG45]

Hey, you finally got something right.

You still haven't answered my questions. What is the problem?

[LS]

I can't understand your questions. I'm not that bright, remember?

[JohnG45]

Finally you admit what I am sure most people on this board thinks.

[LS]

See. Don't you love being in the majority? Means you must be right, as I'm sure you think you always are. Nice of you to speak for "most people on this board." Sort of goes along with your "not in my name" approach.

[JohnG45]

Again, I have difficulty following your brand of "logic."

I don't think I represented myself as speaking for people on this board. I am simply surmising that you are not respected by the number of other members who have taken you to the woodshed on more than one occasion. It is as simple as that. But that may be over your head.

Do you know that group that caters to super intelligent people - MENSA? Well there is a similar group for people like you. It is called DUNCE. Their phone number is 111-111-1111. Think you can remember that?

[LS]

No, I don't follow. You are way over my head. As are "all those people" who have "taken me to the woodshed." Must have missed that. But by all means, keep posting. Sooner or later I will have to get some of your astounding brilliance by osmosis. Wait! Is that an original thought? No, that's impossible, so scratch that. Remember, according to you I am a "dunce," "idiot," "idiota," "braindead." Course, with my very limited intelligence and memory, that is all I can remember of the fine names you've called me.

[Redleg Duke]

"What is it with you numbminded, tunnelvisioned freaks?"

What an intellectual response. That is one terrific conversation starter!

I would hit the abuse button, but you are just too damned funny! However, I doubt if many of us are going to even respond to your future rants. Don't worry, however, the Brigadeers and Brownies will squeal in agreement...for what it is worth.

Bye-bye!

[JohnG45]

Admitting you have a problem is the first step in solving it. So may be there is some hope for you. Otherwise, try DOLTS ANONYMOUS.