Jesus Christ Is Not A Pacifist!

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[exnavy]

Since muslim is the antichrist, I think rightious men have been called to arms.

[TaxPayer2000]

SHOULDN'T THAT BE "WAS"...?

Haven't you heard? Jesus Christ lives even today, He is currently at the right hand of God the Father in heaven, but make no mistake about it, He rose from the dead and is alive forevermore.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

[#3Fan]

Jesus' mission in the first advent was to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins for all time for any who would would believe and repent. His mission in the second advent will be to conquer and overthrow.

[the-ironically-named-proverbs2]

Matt 24:14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

How many Christians actually understand what this means? Christ is coming back, and it won't be like when he came the first time.

Heb 10:30
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

[LS]

Good point. Let me add this---which many Christians often forget.

John 1:1. "In beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." So, Jesus was WITH God from the beginning, and since He and the Father are One, they cannot disagree. Now, just as ONE example (but the Old Testament is full of examples), in Numbers God instructed Moses, "Take vengeance on the Midianites . . . ." Or, in Deut. 6:21 [referring to Jericho], "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman. . . ." This was at God's command. Guess what? Jesus agreed with that command, because 1) He was THERE, and 2) He cannot disagree with the Father.

[GailA]

All who believe that Jesus is a pacifist should RE-READ REVELATIONS!

[jammer]

The Savior clearly said He would fight!

Garner Ted may be correct. But he presents not one word in this article to support that statement--and neither have any of the posters above this one. Disciples are quoted, prophets are quoted. But not one word that I read quoted Jesus to back up the assertion. This is clearly a case of people who WANT to believe something that they cannot demonstrate.

In fact, the incident with the ear shows quite the opposite of the title. And of course, the Sermon on the Mount shows that Garner Ted is further deluding the gullible.

[uncbob]

In fact, the incident with the ear shows quite the opposite of the title. And of course, the Sermon on the Mount shows that Garner Ted is further deluding the gullible.

But it does show his disciples were armed with the high tech equipment of the day and that at no point during his ministry and travels with his disciples were they told to espouse SWORD CONTROL and disarm

[jammer]

Yes, and Jesus, the ultimate pacifist, even unto death, repudiated the action with the sword.

I repeat: unless you show me where Jesus clearly said he would fight, the article starts with a lie. Period.

[dennisw]

BTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[yarddog]

How is this for a direct quote. "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the world; no, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Matthew 10:34.

I am not sure I completely understand this statement because in other places he is called the prince of peace. Maybe it is sort of like the original colt .45 was called the "peacemaker".

[mollynme]

Garner Ted is not necessarily the best source for analysis of the Bible.

[IVAXMAN]

You mean REVELATION, singular.

[yarddog]

I agree. Garner Ted is an itnteresting speaker but he is not my idea of a prophet.

[Wondervixen]

Who do you all think is God's Commanding Officer during the Battle of Armageddon? Jesus isn't FRENCH!

[jammer]

Now, you should have written the article! Garner Ted clearly, to me, fumbled. You are persuasive.

[the-ironically-named-proverbs2]

You have your own eyes to see and ears to hear. I also assume that you have a Bible. What do you believe that the implications of John 1:1 are? Jesus is the Word.

"Disciples are quoted, prophets are quoted. But not one word that I read quoted Jesus to back up the assertion. This is clearly a case of people who WANT to believe something that they cannot demonstrate."

Your attitude is that the disciples and prophets were lying. These disciples wrote the words of Jesus in the Bible. How can you trust that these were actually His words?

Jesus' first visit was not about vengeance

Luke 4:16-21
16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

Note where Jesus stopped reading. Note the part that is yet to be fulfilled.

Isa 61:1-2
1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

[STD]

How About Daniel

All this week, I've been thinking of France, Germany and Belgium

Daniel 7:8
I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.

Daniel 7:20
and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.

Daniel 7:24
The ten horns are ten kings Who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; He shall be different from the first ones, And shall subdue three kings.

Bye bye France, Germany and Belgium!