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Public Library to Celebrate Black Confederate History
CNSNews.com ^ | February 10, 2003 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 02/10/2003 8:22:03 AM PST by H8DEMS

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To: x
when are you going to get the message?

persons "forced to unload munitions or build bridges" were NOT soldiers, sailors or marines, but servants, whether slaves or free.

slaves could NOT be members of the forces as they were NOT free to take the oath of enlistment, though SOME did take up arms for the southland.

the veterans who joined the UCV were "free persons of colour" who were members of combat,combat support or combat service support units.

ONLY VETERANS of the CSA's military forces were UCV members. when the UCV formed, ALL CSA VETERANS were welcomed, regardless of color.

FRee dixie,sw

141 posted on 02/12/2003 7:54:05 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: Non-Sequitur
you MAY be right about how the "overwhelming majority of confederate leaders" felt; nonetheless, the local UNITS went right on quietly recruiting,training, arming and utilizing "free persons of colour" as soldiers, sailors & marines from 1861 to the bloody, bitter end.

it came down to this: in the midst of a war for your freedom, you do what is NECESSARY to increase your chances of WINNING the war. what was necessary was using the available volunteers, regardless of religion, language spoken or race.

free dixie,sw

142 posted on 02/12/2003 8:01:08 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Both sides were wrong by today's standards, just southerners weren't hypocrites.

Of course not. Take those black confederate soldiers that you claim there were so many of and those former slaves that you claim were so loyal and then ensure that they are stripped of any sufferage and every right that you can take away. That's not hypocrisy at at all.

In Ohio, an 1807 law forced blacks to pay a $500 per person for a "freedom" certificate or leave the state.

In Virginia, an 1806 law forced freed slaves to leave the state or be sold back into slavery.

In Illinois, blacks had to pay $1000 to emmigrate into the state (1829).

In Louisiana (1814) and South Carolina (1820) and North Carolina (1826) were forbidden to emigrate in to the state at all.

Any runaway in the state could be sentenced by a justice of the peace to thirty-five lashes, and groups of three or more could be jailed and flogged.

In every southern state it was illegal for slaves to assemble in groups of any size. It was this law that Thomas Jackson fell afoul of in teaching his Sunday school class, not the law against teaching slaves to read. Jackson wasn't teaching anyone to read.

In other words, the Republicans had problems abiding by the Constitution, a 7-2 decision of the US Supreme Court, the citizenship acts of the country since it's founding, and their ratification agreements to uphold the Constitution? Who's the criminal here?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Republican platform in the recent election declared it's opposition to abortion, in violation of a 7-2 decision of the U.S. Supreme Court.

When did they end up North?

On the whole a lot earlier than they ended down south.

143 posted on 02/12/2003 8:16:42 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
"a lot earlier than-----down south"

the PUBLICK SCREWLS in the north are mostly STILL segregated.

FRee dixie,sw

144 posted on 02/12/2003 8:49:19 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: stand watie
the PUBLICK SCREWLS in the north are mostly STILL segregated.

As are the ones down south.

145 posted on 02/12/2003 9:01:53 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; stand watie
the PUBLICK SCREWLS in the north are mostly STILL segregated.

"As are the ones down south".

Not in the South I live in. What part of the South do YOU live in??

146 posted on 02/12/2003 10:16:57 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: H8DEMS
Factual bttt
147 posted on 02/12/2003 10:18:21 AM PST by lodwick
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To: SCDogPapa
I live in the North, obviously not the same part of the North that stand waite is familiar with.
148 posted on 02/12/2003 10:52:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
according to CNN, 88% of schools in the "most populus northern states" are STILL segregated, as of DEC 2002.also more than 1/2 have made NO attempt to desegregate. the federal courts, the shysters of the splc & the money-hungry racists of the naaLcp seem BLIND to this fact.

in the southland, i know of NO segregated public schools, period end of story. can YOU name a single public school ANYWHERE in dixie that is segregated NOW?

perhaps the part of the north you live on is different, like the planet Mars for instance.

FRee dixie,sw

149 posted on 02/13/2003 9:10:31 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The North was filled with segregationists. Join the club.
Everything you say is a non-sequitur.
150 posted on 02/13/2003 7:56:44 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Everyone should buy and read The Real Lincoln, by Thomas DiLorenzo
151 posted on 02/13/2003 7:57:59 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
The North was filled with segregationists. Join the club.

So long as you agree that the club includes the south as well.

152 posted on 02/14/2003 4:31:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
i note that you have NOT named a SINGLE segregated public school.

the reason is there are NONE!

had i the time i could name THOUSANDS in the north.

also i could name THOUSANDS of country clubs, where my partner, who happens to be Jewish, is not welcome to play golf, even as a guest of a member; offhand i can't think of a SINGLE country club in dixie that forbids Jews on the premises.

face it, NS, today the north is the SEGREGATED area of the country AND perhaps it's time to send FREEDOM RIDERS from MS,AL,GA,LA & other southron states to DAMNYANKEELAND!

FRee dixie,sw

153 posted on 02/14/2003 10:50:41 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: stand watie
had i the time i could name THOUSANDS in the north.

How about just a few?

154 posted on 02/14/2003 12:22:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
EVERY public HS in south Boston,MA for just a LARGE group!

south Boston is MORE segregated NOW than Jackson MS was in the 1940s!

face it, N-S, it has ever been the portion of the damnyankee elitists to be self-serving, lying, self-righteous HYPOCRYTES!

free dixie,sw

155 posted on 02/19/2003 7:50:41 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
" There is no -credible- evidence of blacks in active rebel service. "

There is no -credible- evidence that Walt exists

:o)
156 posted on 02/19/2003 7:58:18 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT
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To: stand watie
EVERY public HS in south Boston,MA for just a LARGE group!

And your evidence of this?

157 posted on 02/19/2003 9:28:40 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
CNN published the list of STILL SEGREGATED schools in Boston a couple of weeks ago;a "spokesperson" for the Boston Public Schools said that "the interviewer who reported the single-ethnicity of schools in our district does not underatand our unique problems". you will NOTE that the "spokesperson" did NOT deny that the schools were SEGREGATED by race!

perhaps you should go look on CNN's website for the list.

i know it galls you that i'm CORRECT about how hypocritical,self-righteous, ignorant, self-serving,arrogant AND hatefilled the average damnyankee IS;nonetheless it is TRUE!

free dixie,sw

158 posted on 02/21/2003 8:48:31 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: stand watie
CNN published the list of STILL SEGREGATED schools in Boston a couple of weeks ago...

Ah yes, the pantented stand waite 'I saw it somewhere a while back' school of evidence. You never change.

Here is a link to a study done by Harvard. It shows that the country as a whole has a long way to go, but if you're looking for segregated schools you are just as likely to find them down south as you are up North.

159 posted on 02/21/2003 10:12:52 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
you are certainly consistent if nothing else!

you seem to think that i have time to go look up references for you personally, rather than YOU going to do your own research.every time i have gone to the trouble to footnote my sources, the damnyankees & scalawags have said that the source was southern biased, even when the source was from the US ARCHIVES!

nonetheless the NORTH's schools in the 21st century are STILL mostly segregated while there are NO segregated public schools in the southland.

that, N-S is the TRUTH!

free dixie,sw

160 posted on 02/22/2003 8:13:56 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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