Murderer of US Attorney Tom Wales caught.... and he's NOT a disgruntled gun rights activist

KOIN-TV Channel 6 news broadcast (Portland, OR) | 9 February, 2003 | myself

[Vigilant1]

I would be astonished if any sort of apology from Wales's friends to gunowners, or retratction/admission of error from the LA Times were forthcoming. I hope the Washington State TRT rips them a new one, now that their early rebuttal to these slanders of gun rights advocates has been vinicated. I will post a news article on the capture of the murderer as soon as one is posted on local news websites.

[oceanperch]

So who did kill him? I never even heard this story in the NW. Is there anything a koin web site?

[oceanperch]

Nice catch btw. I will bump this for the AM East crowd if I cannot sleep tonight.

[Vigilant1]

As I said, I'll post the story as soon as it appears on one of the local news sites. It hasn't shown up on KOIN's site or anyhwere else except the broadcast local TV news. I checked around pretty thuroughly, but news websites in the PNW are slow to post breaking stories, especially at oh-dark-thirty.

[Ken H]

Great find.

[11B3]

Excellent find - thanks for posting this.

[Maelstrom]

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[Illbay]

How are those "slanderous accusations"? They sound quite reasonable to me.

Are you saying that it isn't possible for "gun rights advocate" to be so far "out there" that he might commit a murder such as this?

Funny. I heard Al Sharpton once say that it was impossible for a black person to be a "racist." I thought HE was full of ****, too.

[Grampa Dave]

Please post a thread about the killer with he/she/it's pictures and names.

Here is an interesting article about the duplicity of the LA Slimes liar/reporter who started this war of words:(Tom Wales: The Manufacturing of a Martyr )

Here are two interesting paragraphs from this article:

Early news reports played up the possibility that Wales was murdered because of his courageous stand against guns. In reality, the investigation never found any indication that this was the case and it appears more likely that he was killed as a result of his work as a federal prosecutor. The absence of evidence has not discouraged several reporters who practice advocacy journalism.

The leading media cheerleader for the Wales canonization project is Kim Murphy, Seattle Bureau Chief of the notoriously anti-gun Los Angeles Times. Her fourth article on Wales made the front page of the LA Times Sunday Magazine. The headline sums up the tone: “Tom Wales Fought for Gun Control, Maybe He Died For It.” Murphy also eulogizes Wales by lovingly listing the details of his life in a way that reads like a movie script about the ideal sensitive, gentle, urban male.

Ceasefire was in severe financial trouble until this story came out.

The whole thing smacks of PCism, lies from an anti gun fiction writer and a scam to raise money for Ceasefire.

This falls in the same realm of looking for evil white snipers in an evil white van in the DC sniper case. Of course in that fiasco, the calls and witnesses who saw two black men in an old not white sedan were buried under left wing Bravo Sierra.

[TC Rider]

Does it bother anyone else that this 'advocate' had a job as a Federal Prosecuter? Isn't that a full time job?

[Grampa Dave]

You are absolutely right! Does it bother anyone else that this 'advocate' had a job as a Federal Prosecuter? Isn't that a full time job?

What were the financial connections and political connections with Wales and Ceasefire. Were there financial connections like money being donated for a future political campaign like Governor or Senator for Washington.

Or was it just a political scam to get the votes of the gun haters in Seattle locked in for him for future races?

[Grut]

Either place affords a close and clear view of the vehicle parking spot under the streetlight.

Maybe, but it isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that the witness has defective eyesight (nearsighted, night blind etc.).

[Teacher317]

How are those "slanderous accusations"? They sound quite reasonable to me. Are you saying that it isn't possible for "gun rights advocate" to be so far "out there" that he might commit a murder such as this?

Using your logic, then it would be okay for me to say something as ridiculous as, "It's also possible that Illbay is a cross-dressing white supremacist with a propensity for watching the Animal Channel in hopes of seeing animals 'doing it'."

Of course, you'll agree with this as the topic of a front-page article and the central theme of a police investigation, right? I mean, after all, it is possible. Anyone who would say it is impossible is just full of ****, right? And, of course, those aren't "slanderous accusations", either, right? Just because they probably aren't true, and are great leaps proceeding from unfounded predictions, doesn't mean they're wrong.

By the way, how many other far-right gun whacko murderers can you find on a quick internet search? I found plenty of accusatory pieces, full of this "non-slander", but no actual murderers. What exactly makes it "reasonable" to assume that a pro-gun-rights activist did it?

(I look forward to your reply, but I probably won't be back online until Monday afternoon... wearing asbestos underwear, I'm sure. (^8 )

[BOBWADE]

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[Atlas Sneezed]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/90134_walesed.shtml

OPINION

Tuesday, October 8, 2002

Wales murder demands solution

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

Friday will mark a grim anniversary in Seattle. It was on the evening of Oct. 11 one year ago that Assistant U.S. Attorney Tom Wales was murdered in his Queen Anne home. A year will have passed and this brazen killing of a federal officer remains unsolved.

That is unacceptable. The cold-blooded murder of a loving father and friend is bad enough. But when the father and friend who is murdered is also a well-known political activist and a federal law enforcement official, the urgency of solving such a case is multiplied.

The delay in resolving the case has allowed intemperate and unfounded allegations from either side of the gun control/gun rights issue.

Both of the city's major newspapers carried stories over the weekend saying investigators appear to have focused on one man, who was a defendant in one of Wales' cases. It would be encouraging to believe that the case is close to resolution and discouraging to think that authorities were releasing details in the case to put additional pressure on a suspect. What this city doesn't need is another Richard Jewell. Jewell was the former security guard broadly and publicly, but wrongly, accused in the 1996 Summer Olympics bombing in Atlanta. Murder cases are solved on the ground, not in the media.

We encourage the Justice Department, the FBI and Seattle Police to redouble their efforts to solve this crime.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

Another case where the "psychotic gun owner" theory was proven wrong.

[dark_lord]

"It's also possible that Illbay is a cross-dressing white supremacist with a propensity for watching the Animal Channel in hopes of seeing animals 'doing it'."

Now, don't go starting any rumors. And of course, we shouldn't repeat such baseless accusations. Really.

[FreePaul]

"It's also possible that Illbay is a cross-dressing white supremacist with a propensity for watching the Animal Channel in hopes of seeing animals 'doing it'."

Now that you've brought this up we'll have to pay more attention to his position on various things.

[Mamzelle]

Sounds like mob? No wonder the witness didn't provide many details. Any name or details on the arrest?