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Washington warns over investment in Germany
Gulf Daily News ^ | 9 Feb 2003 | Gulf Daily News

Posted on 02/08/2003 9:42:15 PM PST by pepsionice

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To: StockAyatollah
"I don't recall anything entangling involved in that alliance."

I do.

While we needed the French, Washington himself had mixed feelings about their presence here and concerns about French ambition to re-assert its territorial claims in North America. (Yes, he said so.) It also complicated our relationship with our supporters in England, such as Burke, making it much more difficult for them to argue our case before Parliament and with the ministry. France pulled Spain into this alliance, which complicated matters even further.

And fyi, the Constitution specifically gives the federal government the power to make treaties and does not exclude the formation of alliances for mutual defense.

61 posted on 02/09/2003 11:41:52 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: StockAyatollah
Here's more --

    1789

    With victory, the status of the Franco-American alliance became controversial. Some held that the alliance continued, as there was no limit specified in the treaty of 1778. Americans who disliked the suggested perpetual connection with France saw the French Revolution of 1789 as an opportunity to get rid of the treaty. However, Washington agreed with Jefferson that the treaty of 1778 remained in force even with France changing to a republic. The problem was intensified as the French Revolution led to another French-Anglo war, and the US wanted to remain neutral.

    A French minister to the US, Edmond C. Genêt, arrived in April 1793. He attempted to foment a war between the US and England, as well as to encourage American privateer actions against Spanish and English possessions. His overt activities forced Washington to have Genêt recalled in August 1793. The episode embarrassed even the modest amount of Francophile support that remained in the US.

    1794

    Even when his successor arrived in February 1794, Genêt's elected to remain in the US. He possibly feared returning to France during the Reign of Terror. However, the Americans did not want to be reminded of the 1778 treaty with France. They did not want it to disrupt lucrative commerce with the rest of Europe, and especially with England.

    The American minister, John Jay negotiated the 'Jay Treaty' with England in November 1794. It accommodated American policy to British interests, and permitted British seizure of French goods on American ships.

    The French reaction was abrupt. France broke relations with US and the French began to harass US shipping in the West Indies.

Those who believe that our country could ever exist in splendid isolation from European and global conflict and intrigue are only fooling themselves.

Still think our alliance with the French was not "entangled?"

62 posted on 02/09/2003 12:15:42 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Lessismore
I'm not sure that just because Bush likes to yell "Check" and "Game Over" it makes him a cowboy without a strategy. Everyone so far who has misinterpreted his actions as those of a stupid cowboy have found themself entangled in his lasso. I tend to think he's more of a shrewd poker-player, who LIKES his opponent to think he's just a reckless cowboy.
63 posted on 02/09/2003 3:28:00 PM PST by enemy9oclock
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To: First_Salute
Thanks very much for the heads-up...appreciate it.

64 posted on 02/10/2003 6:49:52 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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