Bill Clinton--Future UN Secretary General?

Self ^ | 02/08/03 | GRRRRR

[steveegg]

>Does this mean Clinton will buy a vacation home in St. Barts as a tax dodge and say he is from there?

If he has $50,000, he can purchase Peruvian citizenship if he wants.

Now that's a scary thought.

[Dionysius]

This could open up a whole new world of interns for him!

[Straight Vermonter]

LOL! 'Larry King's Hairpiece is Partially Alive!'

Have you ever heard the tape of the caller challenging Larry about his hair? Its hilarious.

[Faith65]

Oh man........
please don't joke about that.......
the thought of Clinton being in charge of anything should have people running a mad dash to the borders of insanity......

[cloud8]

Citizens of the five permanent members of the Security Council are ineligible for that office. Part of the UN Charter.

I sure hope so. A quick search of http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/ch-cont.htm found this, with no mention of the ineligibility of Security Council citizens. Perhaps there's a later amendment. I would like reassurance that clinton could not possibly become the sec general. --Bill

Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the Organization.

[Wait4Truth]

I can see Germany, France and China voting to change the rules. They would love nothing more than to have one of their own running things...Russia, I don't know about. Depends what they have on clinton, which could be a lot.

[smith288]

From UN.org:

"Under the Charter, the Secretary-General is appointed by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council. Mr. Annan's predecessors as Secretary-General were: Boutros Boutros-Ghali (Egypt), who held office from January 1992 to December 1996; Javier PÈrez de CuÈllar (Peru), who served from January 1982 to December 1991; Kurt Waldheim (Austria), who held office from January 1972 to December 1981; U Thant (Burma, now Myanmar), who served from November 1961, when he was appointed acting Secretary-General (he was formally appointed Secretary-General in November 1962) to December 1971; Dag Hammarskjˆld (Sweden), who served from April 1953 until his death in a plane crash in Africa in September 1961; and Trygve Lie (Norway), who held office from February 1946 to his resignation in November 1952."

None appear to be a member of the security council from memory.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

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[SandRat]

The correct answer is to make the UN (Unclean Ninnies) a footnote in history right next to the League of Nations by pulling the US out of it and it out of the US.

Failing that at the very least it gives us all the best reason possible to re-elect GW in 04, then elect his brother in 08 and the election after that, then Condi for the next two after that.

By then, the sperminator and witch will both be too old to do anything more than poor impersonations of the senior Senator from WV.

[kaylar]

We have seen articles posted to FR over the past few years which state that an alliance of mainly EU and Third World intellectuals, NGO members, and bureaucrats wish to abolish the security council entirely. The year 2008 is the target date for this "reform". Remember the Millenium Summit and the articles posted here about this 'reform'? I seem to recall those articles referring to this, usually quoting the 'guilty parties' themselves. If the security council is abolished and the UN goes to the intended one nation, one vote organization , empowered to inflict legally binding decrees on all member nations by 51% majority vote, then the secretary general position should theoretically be open to Americans, Britons, French, Russian, and Chinese individuals. And if the US withdrew from the UN (upon the threatened abolition of the SC, or for any reason), then WJC would automatically be as eligible as anyone, I should think.

[Domestic Church]

All the more reason to publucly show the irrelevence of the UN. The German/French snit might be a blessing in disquise if it allows us to totally bypass the UN.

[Domestic Church]

"Clinton will have that part of the charter rewritten"

And those socialists in the UN would gladly do it for him.

[Tall_Texan]

I don't see this happening for one very special reason:

The UN already thinks America is too powerful and out of control. I don't think they'd ever accept an American as Secretary General. Too many anti-American nations out there who would never agree to it.

The ONLY way it happens is if Clinton convinces them that he is a stealth agent seeking to dismantle America or bring it under UN control (which might actually be true). But if you are France, Germany or any of the bedwetting hate-America nations, do you REALLY want to trust the word of Bill Clinton?

Notice where these leaders all come from (since you provided the history)? They all come from countries that are impotent and irrelevant on a global stage. That's why they are at the UN is to have more power than their individual nation could possibly provide - to play referee and chief poohbah of the countries of the world - only the U.S. knows they are the biggest gorilla in the room and it frosts the rest of them to no end even though we're the ones who bankroll most of their ventures.

Rest assured, if Clinton becomes UN Secretary General then he truly is the Anti-Christ.

[MatthewViti]

The Anti-Christ

[Domestic Church]

"if Clinton convinces them that he is a stealth agent seeking to dismantle America"

They already know that! It's no coincidence that he didn't take out OBL when he could have and that Venezuela, North Korea and Iraq have all flaired up as soon as a Republican (not Democrat/Socialist) President was elected.

[expatpat]

Why be concerned about Clinton in the UN? He's really an undercover Republican operative. Look how successful he was in screwing up the Democrat party. Next mission: run the UN into the ground.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Clinton would get around the UN rule by annexing the US to Cuba....or something like that

The US needs to get out of the UN, now

[philman_36]

As an US citizen, he can never be Secretary General. Citizens of the five permanent members of the Security Council are ineligible for that office. Part of the UN Charter.

UN rules prohibit the Secretary General being from a nation that is a member of the Security Council.

I see nowhere in the UN Charter that says that is so. Could you point to which article states that?
UN Charter Chapter XV THE SECRETARIAT
Article 97
The Secretariat shall comprise a Secretary-General and such staff as the Organization may require. The Secretary-General shall be appointed by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council. He shall be the chief administrative officer of the Organization.
Article 98
The Secretary-General shall act in that capacity in all meetings of the General Assembly, of the Security Council, of the Economic and Social Council, and of the Trusteeship Council, and shall perform such other functions as are entrusted to him by these organs. The Secretary-General shall make an annual report to the General Assembly on the work of the Organization.
Article 99
The Secretary-General may bring to the attention of the Security Council any matter which in his opinion may threaten the maintenance of international peace and security.
Article 100
In the performance of their duties the Secretary-General and the staff shall not seek or receive instructions from any government or from any other authority external to the Organization. They shall refrain from any action which might reflect on their position as international officials responsible only to the Organization.
Each Member of the United Nations undertakes to respect the exclusively international character of the responsibilities of the Secretary-General and the staff and not to seek to influence them in the discharge of their responsibilities.
Article 101
The staff shall be appointed by the Secretary-General under regulations established by the General Assembly.
Appropriate staffs shall be permanently assigned to the Economic and Social Council, the Trusteeship Council, and, as required, to other organs of the United Nations. These staffs shall form a part of the Secretariat.
The paramount consideration in the employment of the staff and in the determination of the conditions of service shall be the necessity of securing the highest standards of efficiency, competence, and integrity. Due regard shall be paid to the importance of recruiting the staff on as wide a geographical basis as possible.

I also give you...Chapter III Articles 7 and 8
There are established as the principal organs of the United Nations:
a General Assembly
a Security Council
an Economic and Social Council
a Trusteeship Council
an International Court of Justice
and a Secretariat.
Such subsidiary organs as may be found necessary may be established in accordance with the present Charter.

Article 8 The United Nations shall place no restrictions on the eligibility of men and women to participate in any capacity and under conditions of equality in its principal and subsidiary organs.

I'd really feel better if ya'll could point to a specific article to back up your claims.

[Tall_Texan]

But I think you underestimate how much these nations resent us. WE see Clinton for the traitor that he is but I'm not sure the rest of the world sees him that way. I think they'd see his track record as being almost as imperialistic as Bush.

If Clinton can pull off getting named Secretary General, then my suggestion is to make your peace with God because Jesus will be back shortly. Seriously.

[SSN558]

"Sounds like prophecy come true, huh?"

You got that straight ! If Bill Clinton became UN Sexratary General he could do for the UN what he did for the Democrap party. The UN would become an even more corrupt and irrelevant institution than it is now. A conservative dream come true, the UN could finally be defunded after numerous corruption scandals.