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Gay Activists to push for Same-Sex Marriage Recognition on Valentine's Day
Omaha-World-Herald ^ | February 3rd, 2003 | Tom Shaw

Posted on 02/03/2003 11:17:58 AM PST by Hat-Trick

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To: realpatriot71
Why should two consenting adults be forbidden to enter into some sort of legal binding contract that allows them to share their money, homes, cars, etc.?

I have no problem with that. I'm among the 70% of Nebraskans who said let's not call it marriage, and let's not equate that as equal to or with traditional marriage.

How's this for a secular/legal argument:

If we set the legal precedent of "normalizing" and equating a behavior (homosexuality) with an inherent design (heterosexuality), we are opening the door for other types of behaviors to be normalized - some of which lead to the victimization of innocents unable to defend themselves.

Hat-Trick

21 posted on 02/04/2003 8:11:24 AM PST by Hat-Trick (He shoots............HE SCOOOOOOORES)
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To: realpatriot71
There is no argument, people can enter into any kind of contract they want.

However, in order to be married you have to have one from each column to satisfy the definition of the word marriage.

Secular enough?

22 posted on 02/04/2003 8:14:38 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Yes, the church mentioned in 2nd Timothy 4, verse 3.
23 posted on 02/04/2003 8:14:55 AM PST by Hat-Trick (He shoots............HE SCOOOOOOORES)
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To: realpatriot71

Bowers v. Hardwick, 478 US 186 (1986)
After being charged with violating the Georgia statute criminalizing sodomy by committing that act with another adult male in the bedroom of his home, respondent Hardwick (respondent) brought suit in Federal District Court, challenging the constitutionality of the statute insofar as it criminalized consensual sodomy. The court granted the defendants' motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. The Court of Appeals reversed and remanded, holding that the Georgia statute violated respondent's fundamental rights.

Held: The Georgia statute is constitutional. Pp. 190-196 .

(a) The Constitution does not confer a fundamental right upon homosexuals to engage in sodomy. None of the fundamental rights announced in this Court's prior cases involving family relationships, marriage, or procreation bear any resemblance to the right asserted in this case. And any claim that those cases stand for the proposition that any kind of private sexual conduct between consenting adults is constitutionally insulated from state proscription is unsupportable. Pp. 190-191 .

(b) Against a background in which many States have criminalized sodomy and still do, to claim that a right to engage in such conduct is "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" or "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty" is, at best, facetious. Pp. 191-194 .

(c) There should be great resistance to expand the reach of the Due Process Clauses to cover new fundamental rights. Otherwise, the Judiciary necessarily would take upon itself further authority to govern the country without constitutional authority. The claimed right in this case falls far short of overcoming this resistance. Pp. 194-195 .

(d) The fact that homosexual conduct occurs in the privacy of the home does not affect the result. Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557 , distinguished. Pp. 195-196 .

(e) Sodomy laws should not be invalidated on the asserted basis that majority belief that sodomy is immoral is an inadequate rationale to support the laws. P. 196 .

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion

As the Court notes, ante at 192 , the proscriptions against sodomy have very "ancient roots." Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law. See Code Theod. 9.7.6; Code Just. 9.9.31. See also D. Bailey, Homosexuality [p*197] and the Western Christian Tradition 70-81 (1975). During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed. 25 Hen. VIII, ch. 6. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *215. The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

This is essentially not a question of personal "preferences," but rather of the legislative authority of the State. I find nothing in the Constitution depriving a State of the power to enact the statute challenged here.

24 posted on 02/04/2003 8:24:00 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Inspectorette
Yes, I can give power-of-attorney to anyone I choose. That's not the issue - that is only in the periphery of their issue. They want the legal equating of homosexuality with heterosexuality AND protected class status to go along with it.
25 posted on 02/04/2003 8:31:32 AM PST by Hat-Trick (He shoots............HE SCOOOOOOORES)
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To: Hat-Trick
I was in Nebraska when the Amendment came up for vote. I also don't think it should equate marrige, but I see no reason why two people cannot enter into some sort of legal binding contract between each other. They can call "it" anything they want.
26 posted on 02/04/2003 10:37:11 AM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: jwalsh07
Secular enough?

No, not that I disagree, but the human definition of "marrige" has its ties to religion.

27 posted on 02/04/2003 10:38:43 AM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: Hat-Trick
I recognize their Right to keep that shit in the closet- where it belongs!
28 posted on 02/04/2003 10:41:19 AM PST by Destructor
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