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Big spending, deficits seem to grow on Bushes
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| 2/2/03
| JACK KENNY
Posted on 02/02/2003 5:05:41 AM PST by RJCogburn
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posted on
02/02/2003 5:05:41 AM PST
by
RJCogburn
To: RJCogburn
Where is the party of smaller government?
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Where is the party of smaller government?
You must mean the libertarians, only party I see that pledges to reduce government.
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posted on
02/02/2003 5:30:36 AM PST
by
steve50
To: RJCogburn
"We will not deny, we will not ignore, we will not pass along our problems to other generations," He is absolutely correct. If he continues this way, there will not be many more 'other generations' because the country itself will be effectively gone. W is presiding over the country's economic and fiscal collapse while effectively encouraging the country being ivanded by millions of foreigners each year (he calls it 'an expression of family values').
Just think about it and then explain it away: $300 Billions annual budget deficits, $500 billion annual trade deficits, rapid de-industrialization, moral collapse. The question is not IF we are going to survive as a nation but WHEN we will cease to be one.
Meanwhile, let's worry about AIDS in Africa, the street map of Jerusalem, Saddam's fate and the effect of actually enforcing our immigration laws could have on illegal immigrants' self esteem.
To: RJCogburn
The slow creep of the Beltline Mentality Syndrome.
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
None of these very expensive programs has even been shown to work. It seems like we should be cutting government spending because there isn't enough money already.
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posted on
02/02/2003 6:11:12 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: steve50
You must mean the libertarians, only party I see that pledges to reduce government. How about the only party that draws even fewer votes than the Greens, Constitutions and Reforms?
How about the party that's even more liberal than the dems on social issue like abortion? You say you believe in liberty, but what about the liberty to the 1.5 MILLION babies killed each year, simply because they are an inconvenience? Hmmmm?
Until we learn to place the unborn at a higher priority than our checkbooks, we need to have higher deficits and taxation. We simply deserve it! What hipocrtites we have become.
There is ot one single political party capable of saving us from this mess. With all of this big talk about the greatness of the libertarian movement (chuckle- 1% in the presidential election!), Neal Boortz is still NOT man enough to address the issue. He and Donahue could have a full fledged orgy with the NOW gang over their agreement over aborion, couldn't they. Liberty my rear end!!!!!
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posted on
02/02/2003 6:26:38 AM PST
by
AlGone2001
(If liberals have lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
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posted on
02/02/2003 6:47:13 AM PST
by
Ahban
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"Where is the party of smaller government?"
A little pandering to the left, riding the centrist middle, and paying lip service to the "conservatives".
Who is making the argument for small government within the RP?
To: AlGone2001
How about the only party that draws even fewer votes than the Greens, Constitutions and Reforms? The number of votes is not an idicator of one being right or wrong. Remember, Jesus, W's favorite social scientist, had very few followers while he was around. And W himself, drew fewer votes than Algore.
To: AlGone2001
Most libertarians I talk with think abortion is a states rights issue, I can live with that.
From what I can see the libertarians are far more conservative(and Constitutional) than these neocons running the republican party right now.
Lesser of two evils has lost it's power over me, this R & D nonsense is just two sides of the same coin.
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posted on
02/02/2003 6:55:58 AM PST
by
steve50
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Yeah, but it's the Constitution that counts, despite what the liberals say. I am still profoundly amazed that 50 million voters voted for a VP that never failed to support Clinton, a man who constantly violated his oath of office. Why would they have expected Gore to be any different if he did not denouce such criminality? All the problems we have now can be laid directly at the feet of the American people who failed to defend their country and denounce these criminals.
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
The budget hasn't been balanced since Nixon's first term and there has
never been a surplus.
What there was were projected surpluses from the crooked Billy Jeff Blythe and his criminal gang.
The Republican Party deserves a massive amount of the blame for this fantasy, because instead of telling the truth they went along with the feel-good BS.
A pox on both their houses.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:18:10 AM PST
by
metesky
To: HankReardon
All the problems we have now can be laid directly at the feet of the American people who failed to defend their country and denounce these criminals. That is true, but it started long before the criminals you speak of. Our parents, grand parents, and great grand parents failed to defend their country against the criminals, of their time.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:20:58 AM PST
by
c-b 1
To: RJCogburn
Why is any of this a surprise? Under Bushs term as governor he expanded state government by a greater percentage than Clinton expanded the federal government in the same time. He is a true believer in nanny government.
Bush suffers from the same delusion Clinton suffered from. He doesnt think big government is the problem. He thinks the wrong people were running the big government.
The really sad thing is most of the country seems to agree. Bush has about the same popularity as Clinton did. If you subtract from his sixty something percent popularity the people who hate any Republican, and figure there are almost as many people who hate any Democrat, you have to figure that there is a vast group of people who supported Clinton and now support Bush.
The Clintonistas who thought Clinton could do no wrong and the Bushbots who think Bush can do no wrong just about cancel each other out. The numbers are about the same. The He may be wrong but at least he is a Republican and the He may be wrong but at least he is a Democrat groups are also close to equal.
It is the group that just says who will take care of me best that liked both Clinton and Bush. It is these people who are destroying the republic. We will continue to slide into the same socialist malaise that destroyed Great Britain because our people no longer want to take responsibility for themselves.
Paging Mr. Franklin: we couldnt keep it.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:52:04 AM PST
by
Sequoya
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Remember, Jesus Yeah, I just went and honored Him for a few hours this morning. One major difference between His teachings and that of libertarianism is that He taught us to crucify ourselves and the libertarians don't mind seeing babies crucified for the sake of justifying all of their other beliefs.
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posted on
02/02/2003 11:15:36 AM PST
by
AlGone2001
(If liberals have lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
To: steve50
Most libertarians I talk with think abortion is a states rights issue, I can live with that. Do you know how lame that is? Is s either murder, or it's not. It seems easier to stand behind the states "right" to murder babies than it does to stand behind the Savior of the World.
The very term Libertarian was drawn from the famous historical document that reads "Life Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
We can so easily drop off the right to life in order to justify our own persoanl liberty and happiness, can't we? We should be ashamed of ourselves! The Lord says that the "Life is in the blood."
The fringe can keep their head in the sand and attempt to ignore the babies, Christ's suffering and His ultimate victory, but one day will have to answer for the act of selfishness. Selfishness is exactly what it is. Are the "pro-choicers" prepared for that? I think not.
Christ does not care about our politics-He wants to know that we love Him.
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posted on
02/02/2003 11:25:19 AM PST
by
AlGone2001
(If liberals have lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Remember, Jesus, W's favorite social scientist, had very few followers while he was around. And W himself, drew fewer votes than Algore. He has more now than Harry Browne will have in 1,000 lifetimes, doesn't He.
There is a major difference in your comparison. Jesus has the Words of Life, while Browne is doing his lifetime groupie thing. Maybe he ought to crucify himself and lay down his own agenda for the sake of the babies. I hope that one day he'll be man enough to do so. Harry Browne didn't take my sin, Jesus did.
And there are over 1 Billion Christians in the world today. There will be billions in heaven.
Let me know when Harry Browne takes even one of my sins and I'll be the judge of it. Until then, let it be known that your comparison was lame.
People rejected jesus because He affected their flesh, and that hurts. People reject Harry Browne (and you know they do), because he is .... well... he's a Libertarian.
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posted on
02/02/2003 11:32:44 AM PST
by
AlGone2001
(If liberals have lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
To: AlGone2001
My remarks had little to do with Hary Browne and a lot to do with the practice of dismissing someone simply because he doesn't have many 'followers' or votes at a particular point in time. Being right does not mean being popular, most of the time.
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
My remarks had little to do with Hary Browne and a lot to do with the practice of dismissing someone simply because he doesn't have many 'followers' or votes at a particular point in time. Being right does not mean being popular, most of the time. Then why was Jesus brought into it? Sadly, many of us spend a lot of time worshippping our political identity, instead of placing Christ first.
If being right is the point, why is Maria antwell a US Senator? You guys really showed us up, didn't you. You were so right that time.
I am cetaian that the Libertarians will NEVER EVER receive more than 2% in a Presidential election. The liberals are more willing to leave the democrat party for the greens than conservatives are to leave the GOP for the LP. Some here claim tha they have-good for them.
Carry a VERY BOLD pro-life point of view and see how many people leave the GOP. Until then, te LP is still nothing more than a small group of mad people.
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posted on
02/02/2003 12:34:02 PM PST
by
AlGone2001
(If liberals have lie to advance their agenda, why is liberalism good for me?)
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