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Drug Laws as Cultural Lobotomy
Liberty Magazine ^ | 9/1995 | John Dentinger

Posted on 01/26/2003 6:20:50 AM PST by RJCogburn

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1 posted on 01/26/2003 6:20:50 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
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2 posted on 01/26/2003 6:34:27 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: RJCogburn
bunch of bull. There's lots of information on drug side effects both on goverment and lay medical sites. It's just that druggies enjoy being high, and don't believe them.

But our society sees "feeling good" as the highest good, and only wants to demonize things like tobacco that cause physical harm.

Things that cause social harm and spiritual destruction are not recognized at all...If I had a dollar for every kid messed up by druggie parents who were "non violent users" who defend legalization, I would be rich.
3 posted on 01/26/2003 6:41:13 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
If I had a dollar for every kid messed up by druggie parents who were "non violent users" who defend legalization, I would be rich.

No argument, LD. Proof that the War on Drugs fails.

Any suggestions?

4 posted on 01/26/2003 6:44:09 AM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it's bold talk......)
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To: RJCogburn
Well said.
5 posted on 01/26/2003 6:57:23 AM PST by THEUPMAN
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To: LadyDoc
Does drug prohibition bring us closer to God?
6 posted on 01/26/2003 7:08:38 AM PST by The FRugitive
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To: LadyDoc
It's just that druggies enjoy being high, and don't believe them.

What's intrinsically wrong with being "high", euphoric or having an alterered state of consciousness? God says not to? Where does He say that?

7 posted on 01/26/2003 7:33:38 AM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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To: The FRugitive
According to LD (and KC, and Dane, and CJ, and Roscoe, etc. etc.) -- yes.

Sad.

8 posted on 01/26/2003 7:34:30 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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9 posted on 01/26/2003 7:35:10 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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To: LadyDoc
bunch of bull.

Yep, the druggies smoke that, too.

Keep up the good work, Doc, although the druggies won't listen to the truth.

10 posted on 01/26/2003 7:39:59 AM PST by A2J (If all else fails, blame it on someone else.)
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My take in the present "drug war" is that it gives the Federal, State, and Local governments to much authority (read practical power). Recall, that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Also recall that the United States was getting along fine when one could walk down to the local drug store and buy cocaine for their own personal use (think Coke-Cola really Coca-Cola).

Can one say that the country is better off after the plethora of drug laws has been passed and spottily enforced since then?

11 posted on 01/26/2003 7:47:51 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: LadyDoc
But our society sees "feeling good" as the highest good, and only wants to demonize things like tobacco that cause physical harm.

What is wrong with feeling good? Should we ban convertibles, hang gliding and skiing, because they too make some people feel good? Come to think of it, all three of them sometimes cause injury or death.

Why (and, where in the Constitution) is the function of government to prevent positive feelings?

12 posted on 01/26/2003 8:10:07 AM PST by coloradan
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To: LadyDoc
If drugs caused as much harm as claimed our government would stop setting up it's own protected import scams. Just a franchise protection racket hidden in a morality play, wake up.
13 posted on 01/26/2003 8:22:21 AM PST by steve50
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Keep up the good work, Doc, although the druggies won't listen to the truth.

And your 'solution' to the problem is....?

14 posted on 01/26/2003 8:23:55 AM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it's bold talk......)
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To: RJCogburn
Rooster...

Its sunday morning, I have a headache and am not about to read all of that.

15 posted on 01/26/2003 8:28:16 AM PST by cynicom
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Its sunday morning, I have a headache and am not about to read all of that.

Ooooh. Sorry to hear that. Take two (legal)aspirin and post me in the morning. ;^)

Meanwhile......

Drug laws keep society from learning anything from the drug use that occurs; they foster lies to fill the silence; and this discredits valid warnings about the real dangers of drugs.

is a shorter version.

16 posted on 01/26/2003 8:33:13 AM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it's bold talk......)
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To: coloradan
"What is wrong with feeling good?"

If the feeling is based on personal responsibility and that the actions taken while "feeling high" can be contained and really don't impact anyone else nothing is wrong.

I can't say that I know a person under 40 who truly understands personal responsibility there is not much use discussing this. Since the 60's and the perversion of our society with total rights rather than responsibilities of good citizens and I don't know what it would take to get the country "RIGHT AGAIN".

Druggies want drugs and rationalize their use -- man is a rational being -- that is what we do -- but it doesn't make it right.
17 posted on 01/26/2003 8:34:02 AM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Be All the government allows you to be!)
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To: coloradan
"Why (and, where in the Constitution) is the function of government to prevent positive feelings?"

You ask the correct question.

The answer is the constitution prevents the function of government from interfering or denying what a free citizen wishes to ingest to obtain "positive feelings."

Amendment IX:

"The enumeration in the Contsitution of certain rights, SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO DENY OR DISPARAGE OTHERS RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE."

You have "others (rights) retained by the people" to ingest the chemical of your choice, in the quantity of your choice, as long as the exertion of that right stops at the length of your nose.

James Madison, the author of 9th amendment, knew that there was no way to name all of the retained inalienable, God-given rights a free human being has. He also feared, along with all of the anti-federalist, that someday in the future, control freaks would state that the only rights you have are the enumerated rights.

So, James Madison authored the 9th amendment.

It is time for Freepers and all citizens to begin to vigorously re-exert this most important right, contained in the "Bill of Rights," not to be confused with the bill of privileges.

18 posted on 01/26/2003 8:39:12 AM PST by tahiti
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To: LadyDoc
If I had a dollar for every kid messed up by druggie parents who were "non violent users" who defend legalization, I would be rich.

Kids get messed up on drugs because they have addictive vulnerabilities. There is absolutely no difference between the destructive addiction of some of todays youth to illegal drugs, and American Indians addictive use of Alcohol.

The only workable answer is Evolution in Action. Given a few generations Dr. Darwin can weed those out of the population. The only effect of anti drinking anti drug laws and advertising is to stretch out the misery over more generations. We should be encouraging all the unfit to use more chemicals and die, preferably before breeding.

So9

19 posted on 01/26/2003 8:43:18 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Control freaks want power and rationalize its use -- man is a power monger -- that is what we do -- but it doesn't make it right.

20 posted on 01/26/2003 8:44:09 AM PST by Bob Mc
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