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The Rage of Oriana Fallaci
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| January 23, 2003|5:33 PM
| by George Gurley
Posted on 01/23/2003 2:37:59 PM PST by dennisw
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01/23/2003 2:37:59 PM PST
by
dennisw
To: dennisw
Last April, she said, Ariel Sharon phoned her to praise an article she had written in the weekly Italian publication Panorama about the problem of European and Arab anti-Semitism. She said she answered the phone and said, "Hey, Sharon! How are you? Are you as fat? Because I know him. Sharon said, Oriana, I called you to say, "Damn, you have guts; damn, you are courageous; damn, do I thank you." I said, Ariel, you thank meI apologize with you. I was too tough to you 20 years ago. And he was, as usual, a gentleman." The night before the phone call, there had been an attack on a kibbutz. "I said, Listen, dear, I know what happened last night in that kibbutz. Will you please permit me to express to you and to your people my condolences? Sharon started crying. I dont know, I didnt see the tears. But the voice was of a crying man, and he started to shout: Oriana! You are the only one who says the word condolences! Do you know, these bloody heads of states, I just spoke with the British and the Americansmeaning Blair and Bushthey did not say that word to me. And then with broken voice he said, Do you know who were the dead last night? One was the grandmother who was in Dachau and who still had the number on her arm. The second one was her daughter, who was seven months pregnant. And the third one was the child of the daughter, who was 5 years old. And they are all dead! All dead! All dead! He was crying." He told her he would be coming to America soon. "I said, Ariel, weve got a problem: How do we see each other in New York without the journalists knowing it? So we have organized 007 storybeautiful. And the night beforedo you remember what happened, the great massacre in Jerusalem? I remember that his assistant, this woman, she called me. I answered the phone and she said, Were leaving, we must go back, we dont come to New York, do you know what has happened? I said, I know, I heard it, tell the Prime Minister I shall come to Jerusalem. I never went. I couldnt." |
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posted on
01/23/2003 2:40:15 PM PST
by
dennisw
(http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
To: dennisw
Fallaci is a member of the Chris Hitchens neo-conservative-but-doesn't-realize-it group, but is more insistent because she's dying. She's a prophet. Always a very keen intellect, now she has her head screwed on straight. Nobody in government circles is yet willing to say the obvious: the purpose of Cold War II is to smash the theocratic power of Islam. We're at a real disadvantage because we can't identify our enemey. Imagine the disadvantage of not being able to say the Commies were the bad guys in '48 or the Nazis in '40, because it wasn't PC. We have to pretend we oppose bin Laden because we don't like his wardrobe, or something.
To: dennisw
Thank you so much for posting this. Oriana Fallaci is a great woman. She has that passion and the anger and rage which accompanies it which so seems to be lacking in people these days. And can the woman write!!! I'll never forget reading the essay she wrote shortly after 9/11. Now I must read her book.
To: vikingcelt
I admired La Fallaci back in the '60s, even when I disagreed with her politics - she was honest and courageous. I hadn't realized she was still alive until the Rage and Fury essay came out online in October 2001. I still admire her courage and honesty. She's dead right about Islam.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:00:09 PM PST
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamia Esse Delendam)
To: vikingcelt
bump 4 insight..............
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:03:24 PM PST
by
litehaus
To: dennisw
Fallacci - she is my hero since I first found The Rage & The Pride on the internet. Thanks SOOOOOO much for posting this piece. She is the kind of person who make NYC the great city that it is. I agree, anyone who does not believe what she is saying is a complete fool.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:05:56 PM PST
by
jocon307
To: CatoRenasci; hchutch
When she gets phone calls threatening her life, she said, she lets them talk. "Then I say, Do you know where it is your mother and your wife and your sister and your daughter are right in this moment? They are in a brothel of Beirut. And do you know what theyre doing? They are giving away theirI dont tell it to you, but I tell it to themand you know to whom? To an American..."Ouch. Knows how to insert knife and twist.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:05:59 PM PST
by
Poohbah
(Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
To: dennisw
The booka passionate cry in which she accuses the West of being blind to the true threat of Islamcaused a scandal when it was published in Europe last year, but has raised barely a murmur in the U.S. [...] The relative silence with which Americans have greeted the book is somewhat puzzling: It is precisely Americans who have the most evidence, in downtown New York, of the danger which Ms. Fallaci lays out in her 187-page book.
In The Rage and the Pride, Ms. Fallaci compares Islam to a "mountain which in one thousand and four hundred years has not moved, has not risen from the abyss of its blindness, has not opened its doors to the conquests of civilization, has never wanted to know about freedom and democracy and progress. In short, has not changed."
Why should we make a fuss about the book?
It's not a revelation to us.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:11:07 PM PST
by
jdege
To: jdege
Why should we make a fuss about the book???!!! Because it's not every day or every year or every decade that we are given such a gift. The gift of great writing from a woman with GUTS. No, it's not a revelation but could you write such a book? Perhaps you just can't relate to the passion...
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:23:42 PM PST
by
dennisw
(http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
To: dennisw
Having lived 9 years in Islamic countries--Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia--and travelled in many others including Pakistan, Falacci has got it right. There is a clash of civilizations and cultures. Militant Islam is not confined to a small minority, but rather, it is representative of the majority of the world's Muslims. The ascendancy of Khomeni in Iran bolstered the fundamentalists who have imposed their own tyranny on the masses. The educational systems are inculcating this hatred of the West into the next generation--including the Islamic schools in Europe and the United States. Islam is more of a cult than a religion.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:24:23 PM PST
by
kabar
To: vikingcelt
I'm not trying to slam the book, only to discuss the lack of hysteria with which it has been received, here.
The Europeans have been in deep denial, and the book is a direct attack on the foundations of that denial.
Of course, they find it upsetting.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:34:17 PM PST
by
jdege
To: dennisw
Great post. What a woman.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:40:20 PM PST
by
Nachum
To: dennisw
excellent post, dennis.
"The point is not winning or losing," she said. "Of course, I want to win. The point is to fight well with dignity. The point is, if you die, to die on your feet, standing up. If you tell me, Fallaci, why do you fight so much? The Muslims are going to win and theyre going to kill you, I answer to you, Fuck youI shall die on my feet."
This woman is a fighter. A kick-ass-and-take-names fighter. Tragic that, in our current state in the West, her attitude and delivery are anomolous.
To: dennisw
If you tell me, Fallaci, why do you fight so much? The Muslims are going to win and theyre going to kill you, I answer to you, Fuck youI shall die on my feet." Damn, I admire her!
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:46:50 PM PST
by
xJones
(#)
To: dennisw
Awesome article.
To: Poohbah
Then I say, Do you know where it is your mother and your wife and your sister and your daughter are right in this moment? They are in a brothel of Beirut. And do you know what theyre doing? They are giving away theirI dont tell it to you, but I tell it to themand you know to whom? To an American. Fuck you!"
Man, that is a great line.
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posted on
01/23/2003 3:56:18 PM PST
by
July 4th
To: dennisw
Thank you for the post!
How I love this woman! May she live long enough to finish the book and to have it well received.
And thanks to the writer (whom I will email) for giving us this glimpse of the man, Arik. I worry about him because of the weight!
Let us all relearn our passion and not be cowed by this damned political correctness. It is for slaves, not for free human beings.
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