Ramon bombed Iraqi reactor in '81

The Jerusalem Post ^ | Jan. 17, 2003 | JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH

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[bonesmccoy]

if that doesn't send a signal to the ME that we support Israel, I don't know what does.

I wonder if any American, British or French gulf war pilots have tickets to space on the fastest manned rocket on Earth?

[bonesmccoy]

if that doesn't send a signal to the ME that we support Israel, I don't know what does.

I wonder if any American, British or French gulf war pilots have tickets to space on the fastest manned rocket on Earth?

[RightWhale]

That's interesting. A reminder, at this time, of the raid on the reactor, points out that if the UN doesn't defuse Iraq, someone with personal interest will.

[Bobby777]

The attack, in which eight IAF F-16 warplanes

hmmm ... I thought a couple of F-15's went along and flew CAP while the F-16's bombed ... not that you need much CAP when you're over the target for 1 minute 40 seconds ... but they might have had to fight their way out ... wouldn't have been much of a fight though ... the Iraqis probably decided to save their airplanes from becoming immediate flaming piles of junk ...

[timydnuc]

The amazing thing about the Israelis is that they use simple scientific logic, and inexpensive means to disable their opponents sophisticated, often Soviet built, offensive and detection equipment. That formation that the article talks about had to be very difficult for those pilots to fly for such a long period of time, but they did it.

When you think about it, if you know anything about flying, they had to fly overlapping wingtips about 1 foot apart, and at a specific altitude and vector, a commerical route, and at the same speed as a commercial airliner, which is much less that the "comfortable" cruising altitude and speed of an F-16. Any change in course would have to be done in that same ultra-tight formation. This type of flying over that distance and time takes precision, talent, and a whole bunch of pure guts.

You have to give it to ground planning as well. At least one of the fighters had to be equipt with a commerial transponder, or a forged equivalent, to fool the ground tracking radar into thinking that the formation was, indeed, a commerical aircraft. Not to mention that any inquiry from ground commercial tracking had to be done in perfect grammer and language of the supposed pilot of the fake 'commerical flight'.

If anybody had a lick of sense they'd make this action into a movie. Hell, I'd pay 10 bucks to see it, and I'd rent the video later. Being a former pilot, small putt-putts only, I'd like to see how they did this! I've often wondered how they pulled off this attack. This small blurb in this article is the first I've heard of this. A-f'ing-mazing!

[demlosers]

Yes, that's way I remember it. The F-15s provided CAP and the F-16s Droped the 2,000 lb MK-84 slicks, with the precision of smart bombs on the Iraqi nuke plant about a week before it came on line.

[jo6pac]

Now that we know that our friend and ally Israel actually does keep records of their pilots, maybe they could release the names of those that butchered American sailors on the USS LIBERTY...and arrange their appearance at an open congressional inquiry into what happened.

[AmericaUnited]

Johnny one note plays again.

There's always some little puke out there who wishes he had even one thimble full of the guts of the average Israeli.

[yonif]

I am not going to answer to that crap.

[yonif]

Great response. I agree. This would be a great movie. Just like the movie they made about the military operation in Entebbe

[Servant of the Nine]

Johnny one note plays again.

There's always some little puke out there who wishes he had even one thimble full of the guts of the average Israeli.

Letting the Israelis get away with the "Liberty" War Crime is as wrong and stupid as pardoning Johnathon Pollard would be. You have to demand respect from your allies as well as your enemies.

So9

[AmericaUnited]

They have answered on the Liberty incident again and again, but Jew Haters will never be satified.

[Catspaw]

It looks like someone's been reading their back issues of Spotlight again.

[Bobby777]

good ... glad I'm not the only one who remembers it that way ... at the time I thought the F-15's should have done the bombing and the F-16's the CAP, even though the F-16 at that time didn't have a semi-active radar-guided or autonomous radar-guided missile like the F-15 which can fire all three (including the IR Sidewinder) ... but the F-15 is the superior air-to-air fighter ... isn't it like 101.5 to 1? (guess it shared one victory with another) ... of course, I'd like to know the F-16's air-to-air record ... I'll bet it's pretty good too ...

yep, they bombed the reactor before it was fueled ... to spare the local population the fuel leak ... and it was the only correct time to do it ... imagine if Saddam had possessed a radiation weapon 10 years later in the Gulf War ... or now ... and many Palestinians were supporting Saddam last night on TV ... no doubt the same ones who danced when 9/11/2001 happened ... (note: I do not condemn all Palestinians, but this "dancing, Saddam-hugging" group are who my comments are about) ...

and it's funny ... there are a few who bring up the Liberty on these threads ... a wound that we're trying to heal ... and yet the NEVER mention the USS Stark when an Iraqi F-1 killed 37 American sailors ... yes it was a mistake by the Iraqis apparently ... but you never hear about the USS Stark on these threads ...

[yonif]

It was an accident. It has always been an accident. The US government says so. The Israeli government says so. Israel paid reperations. Congressional inquiries found it to be an accident. The drive for your kind of propaganda is done by Anti-Semetics today and many of the Liberty Survivors have been swept into it, forcefully and voluntarly.

[piasa]

How come you routinely mention the Liberty but never mention the time back in the Iran-Iraq war when Iraq put a French Exocet missile into one of our warships?

Or the time the Soviet Union shot down a commercial airliner?

[jo6pac]

It was an accident. It has always been an accident. The US government says so. The Israeli government says so. Comment from Secretary of State Rusk:

"We also lost 34 American lives when, on June 8, the fourth day of the war, the U.S. communications ship Liberty came under air and naval attack. We were meeting with President Johnson in the White House situation room, considering the implications had the Soviets or Egyptians attacked the ship, when we received word from Tel Aviv that Israeli forces were responsible. That didn't please us, although an Israeli attack on Liberty was far easier to deal with. But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

[Poohbah]

Actually, it's 101.5 to ZERO. No F-15 has been splashed yet.