Fearing for lives, Jews in France flee

The Detroit News ^ | January 17 2003 | Jocelyn Gecker/AP

[mlmr]

French Catholics were not put in box cars but many other Catholics were...

[Alouette]

Jews have been disliked and maligned in every country through the ages....Why?

WHY THE JEWS??????? The Shocking Explanation for the World's Longest Hatred.

[mdmathis6]

My original post, @#9, spoke of Christians supporting and praying for Israel. Tradionalist asked if that meant "preaching to them". I said"sure if they'll listen".
If they don't want to listen, they won't listen, that doesn't lessen my obligation to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem". There is a Messianic Jewish movement, there is a counter movement...I'm not attempting to be a triumphalist nor do I wish to be offensive in my observations, I'm just observing a cultural generational crisis...My original post was in response to what was happening in France;I wish the Israeli's would send in a few covert operatives to clean out a few of the more heinous thugs who are harassing the Jews in France..."Never Again!" was the battle cry of many Jews after WW2!

[putupon]

I can only suppose that the answer that you are looking for is that Jews are disgusting (perhaps an odour that only righteous people can detect?).

Oy Vey! An Osama wannabe on FreeRepublic. What country are you from? Your spelling of "odour" should reveal the answer unless it is a typo.

[sneakypete]

Where exactly does the problem lie?

IMO,the problem is rooted mostly in jealousy,and the fact that the Jews mostly remain aloof from others. Yes,I know that Jews became a "seperate society" from the others because the others historically shut them out,but this doesn't change the fact that most people don't see or understand this,and that they resent a small,successful group of people who remain seperate from themselves. Being self-identified as "God's Chosen People" doesn't help them,either.

[sneakypete]

Only if half the blacks in the US had teamed up with Hitler in the '40's

Call me a pessimist,but I'm thinking that "marriage" probably wouldn't have worked out real well.

[Hank Kerchief]

You wrote : "How come there isn't a "Jewish Council"?"

That's completely false. Don't write if you don't know !

http://www.crif.org

It was a question more than a statement. I do not read French so maybe you can tell me if this council is a governmentaly sanctioned body like the Muslim one.

Hank

[sneakypete]

100% of the incidents involve Moslems.

I don't believe that for a minute. If you had stated,"MOST of the incidents involved Moslems",I could have gone along with it. There is no shortage of Jew-haters amongst the non-Muslim French population,and I'm positive some of these people are responsible for some of the violence against Jews. As far as that goes,these same people are probably also responsible for some of the violent acts against Muslims in France.

[sneakypete]

Isolationists adn anti-capitalists thus dislike Jews.

Let's not forget to include one of the most powerful political organizations in with these groups,the Catholic Church. Before all you Catholics get your panties all in a bunch over this,I am refering to the historic Catholic Church,not the one of today.

[sneakypete]

It is doubly ironic, then, that many Jews are the forefront of the "diversity" movement, n'est ce pas?

I think the problem here is the lack of a better word to identify cultural Jews from religious Jews. I use the term "cultural Jews" to identify those who are Jewish PURELY due to the accident of birth,and the term "religious Jews" to identify those Jews who are Jewish to the core of their souls. I realize this is inadequate,but if better identifiers are to come,they will have to come from the Jews themselves.

At any rate,the "cultural/accidential Jews" are the ones who push the diversity movement. For the most part,they are only Jews when it is convenient.

[sneakypete]

Why they let Arafat live is beyond me.

The answer to that is obvious. Better a enemy you can identify and control than one who is secret that you can't influence.

[Michael81Dus]

Ehm. With all respect, but in fact more French voluntary fought in the Waffen-SS than in the resistance. Same in the Netherlands or in Denmark, Norway.

[rmvh]

Re your # 95....

There is another perspective......

We use to live near the Amish in Eastern PA....Now there is a very unique and purposefully seperated (from everything else)group of people.....

think about it..strange dress, even stranger living habits....quaint....against modernization....deeply religious....family oriented.......close to the earth!<p.But they are not hated in any way shape or form. That is puzzeling vis a vis the Jews.....don't you think?

[rmvh]

Re your #100

Many Americans have an intense dislike for the French...... and it has absolutely nothing to do with any religion....Jewish included.

It has much more to do with their view of America. Many feel that a large portion of the French population are unduly argumentative, quarelsome, anti-American via jealousy, and overly pro Russian. Example? Politely ask for directions to a local person in Paris and nine times out of ten they will give you the wrong directions and laugh behind your back.....happy to create problems

Recall also that a large portion of the French were pro German during the occupation.....and the French military was split against the Allies until they saw which way the wind was blowing. In North Africa Roosevelt had little confidence that the pro German Vichy French would not kill large numbers of Americans....People conveniently forget these things.

Yes, I know...not ALL the French!!!

[rmvh]

re # 107... IMO,the problem is rooted mostly in jealousy,and the fact that the Jews mostly remain aloof from others.

Please see my #115. Thanks

[rmvh]

re your # 104...Thank you...I will get to it later and hopefully respond.

[rmvh]

Re your # 96...Good points as well. However, in my view, a large part of the bloodshed is due to Sharon. The real jump in killing seem to occur after his ascendency.....But I don't want to argue over my opinion on this subject.

[WaterDragon]

I remember reading about an antisemitic freak here in the U.S. harrassing a Jewish family in his neighborhood after they lit up their house for the Festival of Lights. The other neighbors were furious, and all of them lit up their own homes in the same manner in support of the family.

Maybe if the French really are against these Muslim terrorists, the French could all don yarmulkes to show solid support for their Jewish citizens. That should send the authorities a message to stop futzing around and to round up the perpetrators.