Posted on 01/15/2003 1:45:12 PM PST by Dallas
proud to be born and raised in The USA!
I swear allegience to my flag, OLD GLORY, and no other!
china and russia and a host of others will most certainly nuke israel first chance they get...
isn't this what israel has been saying about their neighbors, and is now in the process of addressing?
IMHO israel knows this to be true!
I tried to look at it but it is blocked by our firewall.
don't ever say that f-word to me again!
my shoelaces are tied make sure your nose is not so high in the air that you trip on your big feet - stick it where it fits!
my grounds are myu groundfs if you've got a problem with it tough sh*T!
got it brethren!
Your firewall blocked it? Good. You have a sensible setup, then. I don't think you missed much worthwhile, actually.
No, it's not my site. It belongs to one of the denizens of "LibertyForum", and it is a Nazi party site. The guy also is responsible for another forum, where he recently blared "Hitler totally exonerated on Libertarian site" - meaning "LibertyForum", which is about as "Libertarian" as I'm a Buddhist.
Lol. Or what, sowbug?
Go back under your rock. Like all Arabs, you need to overcome your de-coupling from reality. Work on it.
watch your manners - boy!
L0L!
I checked out Libertyforum a few months ago when I got tired of the one-sided debates here and found out that LF has a high % of "protocols" oriented posters - blech!!! If I wanted to read that crap, I would go back to usenet.
True Libertarianism IMHO = Ron Paul.
No, he's not a Buddhist either.
The tactic you employ here (remotely diagnosing the ethnic background of poster who you diagree with)doesn't contribute much to "working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America," IMHO.
How is that any different from the tactics you decry on LF? Why is someone's ethnic background relevant?
You need to worry less about the color of people's skin and worry more about what they actually say.
Not a "tactic", really. The poster's constant harping on "a host of nations" nuking Israel shows a particular kind of decoupling from reality which is most commonly found in the Arab press. I have some hilarious examples I could repost here, but I'm sure you have seen a few of them :).
I'll ask you the same question you rhetorically asked me earlier, "Do you really think I'm that stupid?"
I have seen "examples" of a lot of things...
For example, I don't know what the term "host" implies for you (to me it has a sort of Old Testament resonance, eg "Lord of Hosts") but I do know that accusing people of belonging to "stormfront" or being "arabs" or "vermin" everytime they disagree with you whatever is not a legitimate technique of argumentation. It's a debate stifling maneuver with a latin name:
The Nizkor Project: Description of Ad HominemYou should check out the rest of Nizkor.org too, actually.Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
Example of Ad Hominem
Bill: "I believe that abortion is morally wrong."
Dave: "Of course you would say that, you're a priest."
Bill: "What about the arguments I gave to support my position?"
Dave: "Those don't count. Like I said, you're a priest, so you have to say that abortion is wrong. Further, you are just a lackey to the Pope, so I can't believe what you say."
LOL!
In fact, there is no way you could possibly know the ethnic background of "krodriguezdc", so it's actually irrelevant innuendo or assumption on your part rather than irrelevant fact.
Well, to most dictionaries (and to me) it implies "a lerge number of people or things". There isn't a large number of countries or states with nuclear capability, regardless of wether or not they would share a bizarre wish to "nuke Israel".
In fact, the rethoric in question is very typical of Arab "wishful thinking" propaganda - divorced from reality to the point where it becomes farcical.
Sorry, I assumed you were familiar with: "Holy, Holy, Holy is the LORD of hosts...". (Isaiah 6:3).
There isn't a large number of countries or states with nuclear capability, regardless of wether or not they would share a bizarre wish to "nuke Israel".
Last time I checked, Israel was not on the friendliest of terms with Pakistan, but that's OK. The point I'm trying to make here is that it would have been perfectly possible for you to make the above assertion without making unwarranted assumptions about "krodriguezdc"'s ethnic background or calling him a "sowbug."
If you view certain human ethnic groups as insectoid or somehow less than human then that is your business. But I think we can all agree that stirring racist rhetoric into the mix here lowers, rather than raises, the quality of the discussion for everyone.
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