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The United States of America has gone mad (Euro-gag)
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 01/15/03 | John le Carré

Posted on 01/14/2003 5:32:50 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Texas Eagle
Funny, same thing happened with my Rush is Right bumper sticker.
21 posted on 01/14/2003 6:26:28 PM PST by Hildy (I)
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To: Pokey78; general_re; dighton
Yawn.
22 posted on 01/14/2003 6:32:38 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
He's channeling Graham Greene.
23 posted on 01/14/2003 6:41:55 PM PST by dighton
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To: Pokey78
Among other idiocies Le Carre concedes that Hussein is an evil man and would like to see him gone. But not by Bush's methods of course. Mr. Le Carre naturally has no idea how to depose Hussein except force is out of the question. I suppose he expects Saddam to laugh himself to death after watching all the U.N inspectors pile out of their cars like midgets at the circus.
24 posted on 01/14/2003 6:48:10 PM PST by driftless
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To: dogbrain
Well, you may have changed my mind on Fred Reed.

By contrast, since 1900 alone has Europe has started two world wars, not to mention the Spanish Civil War that inflicted Hemingway on the world, and given us both fascism and communism, the two worst ideas the race had ever had except for the designated-hitter rule, and a crop of scrofulous dictators that would embarrass a big-city bus station at three a.m.: Salazar, Horthy, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Honecker, Ceausescu, the Greek colonels, Franco, Kaiser Bill, Tito.

There was a time when Mr. Le Carre could write almost that well. That time is long gone.

25 posted on 01/14/2003 6:50:38 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
This is just too funny to be taken seriously.
The handwringing and hysterics of some of these Euroweenies is getting far too predictable.
26 posted on 01/14/2003 6:59:20 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Billthedrill
All credit to Fred.
He's one of my favorites.
Favorite what, I'm not quite sure....
27 posted on 01/14/2003 7:02:22 PM PST by dogbrain
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To: Pokey78
Never mind the British. They've been accusing us of having gone mad since we protested the Stamp Act back in the 1760s.
28 posted on 01/14/2003 7:06:10 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: vbmoneyspender
I didn't know Le Carre was a leftist

Then read A Perfect Spy or some of his other novels. All moral equivalence between the West and the USSR.

If you want to read great spy stuff, read Len Deighton.

29 posted on 01/14/2003 7:16:47 PM PST by Castlebar
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To: Pokey78
What fantasy world is this guy in?
31 posted on 01/14/2003 7:37:00 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Castlebar
Never read his spy stuff. His historical works are great though. For example, Blitzkreig is awesome. In a straightforward way, from the rise of the Freikorps through to Dunkirk, Deighton lays out how Germany was able to accomplish the Blitzkreig.
32 posted on 01/14/2003 7:39:10 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Castlebar

Actually, the Quest for Karla trilogy was his masterwork. He's quite a good writer. Former FO official, if I recall correctly.

Nevertheless, he has bought into the Arabist, acidly anti-American attitudes of the British upper classes.

He repeats every tired old bit of cant about George Bush, his Administration, and the United States. This is like reading a John Pilger column, only Pilger has an excuse: he's nowhere near the writer le Carre is. It's all "Bush junta" this and "oilmen" that.

You can just visualize the old boy at a some West End cocktail party, saying the same old things to the same old people. We're just getting the written equivalent of cocktail wiener conversation.

As to the virtues of this war, well John, we only lost three thousand people in a single stroke. In return, we plan on killing as many of your raghead co#ks*^king friends as we humanly can. You don't like that? Go run off with Robert Fisk and commisserate.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

33 posted on 01/14/2003 7:46:56 PM PST by section9 (The Spy Who Came in From the Cold is Out to Lunch....)
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To: Shermy
Just another episode of Euro-nary incontinence. Try not to notice, the old goat will be embarrassed enough when he realizes what he has done.
34 posted on 01/14/2003 7:52:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pokey78
God appointed Israel to be the nexus of America’s Middle Eastern policy, and anyone who wants to mess with that idea is a) anti-Semitic, b) anti-American, c) with the enemy, and d) a terrorist.

And his point is...?

;-)

35 posted on 01/14/2003 7:57:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Pokey78
In 1993, while ex-President George Bush was visiting the ever-democratic Kingdom of Kuwait to receive thanks for liberating them, somebody tried to kill him. The CIA believes that “somebody” was Saddam. Hence Bush Jr’s cry: “That man tried to kill my Daddy.” But it’s still not personal, this war. It’s still necessary. It’s still God’s work. It’s still about bringing freedom and democracy to oppressed Iraqi people.

Call it a happy nexus of motivations...a historical twofer.

36 posted on 01/14/2003 8:00:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Pokey78
I cringe when I hear my Prime Minister lend his head prefect’s sophistries to this colonialist adventure.

That's really funny coming from a left-wing Brit.

If we had 'colonialist' intentions, we could have made a nice one out of England in about 1944.

37 posted on 01/14/2003 8:03:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Pokey78
What a pathetic limey p*ssy.
38 posted on 01/14/2003 8:07:05 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Pokey78
If Saddam didn’t have the oil, he could torture his citizens to his heart’s content. Other leaders do it every day — think Saudi Arabia, think Pakistan, think Turkey, think Syria, think Egypt.

one snake at a time, little man. that is how you kill your enemies... one snake at a time.

39 posted on 01/14/2003 8:09:31 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (non potestis me capere, sum homo gingibrati)
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
HUH???
That better NOT be true!
40 posted on 01/14/2003 8:11:40 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (non potestis me capere, sum homo gingibrati)
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