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Posted on 01/14/2003 2:26:38 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Although, as pointed out earlier, Shakira is Colombian, I wouldn't mind you posting her pic to me in every response. Muy bonita. :-)
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posted on
01/15/2003 11:06:54 PM PST
by
CounterCounterCulture
(I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
To: Happy2BMe; Luis Gonzalez; PRND21
"I want to solve the problem, not medicate the symptoms."-Luis G.
One of the best examples of solving our immigration problems I have seen.
All Luis is doing here is disingenuously slapping his name on one of the many ideas that those of us who are serious about immigration reform have been advocating for a long time. If you think for one second that Luis is really for employer sanctions on businesses that hire illegal aliens or for eliminating welfare for illegals I'd like to talk to you about some swamp land I've been trying to unload.
This is just Luiss Clintoness way of trying to gain credibility on an issue where he has proven time and again (like PRND21) to have none. The day our government ever enforced its immigration laws and started deporting illegal aliens in earnest you will hear a primal scream out of this two-bit vagabond. You can take that to the bank.
142
posted on
01/15/2003 11:21:18 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: WRhine
"All Luis is doing here is disingenuously slapping his name on one of the many ideas that those of us who are serious about immigration reform have been advocating for a long time. If you think for one second that Luis is really for employer sanctions on businesses that hire illegal aliens or for eliminating welfare for illegals I'd like to talk to you about some swamp land I've been trying to unload. This is just Luiss Clintoness way of trying to gain credibility on an issue where he has proven time and again (like PRND21) to have none. The day our government ever enforced its immigration laws and started deporting illegal aliens in earnest you will hear a primal scream out of this two-bit vagabond. You can take that to the bank."
Well, excuuuussseeee me!!
Guess now I know.
No matter, the piss-ant / sugar analogy is right-on and dead center (regardless of who or where it came from).
To: Happy2BMe
Guess now I know. No, you don't.
144
posted on
01/15/2003 11:27:50 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: WRhine
"No, you don't." This reminds me of riding in the back seat in the station wagon as a kid.
I always won.
To: WRhine
Up to your usual antics I see, attack the person when the ideas overwhelm your interest. Then lie about them.
One of the things that I have been the most strident about from the first day that I debated this issue with your betters, is the idea of employe sanctions.
I like the fact that you fear me, and my ideas so much, that you need to attack me, and openly lie.
146
posted on
01/16/2003 5:28:43 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: WRhine
"...attack the person when the ideas overwhelm your interest."That should have read "when the ideas overwhelm your intellect".
147
posted on
01/16/2003 5:30:06 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Platero
So, you are taking the very conservative position that welfare is a right?
Riiiiiiiight.......
148
posted on
01/16/2003 5:31:55 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Happy2BMe
BTW, this article is the sum of my ideas on how to solve the problem of illegal immigrants, I have been freely discussing them for quite some time now in this forum.
Some posters have a problem with who I am, and it drives them crazy when I crap all over their biases, so they ignore the ideas, and attack me personally.
149
posted on
01/16/2003 5:35:45 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: MHGinTN
The last time the Posse Comitatus Act was violated by the Federal Government (which is what using the US Armed Forces to seal the borders does) was Waco.
No thanks.
150
posted on
01/16/2003 5:38:15 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Lurker
I agree that all illegals should be deported. As for the mothers-to-be that come across the border specifically to give birth and then be eligable for citizenship, I'm for sending them both back. If the mother insists that the child is now a US citizen, and she wants what is best for the child, fine, leave it here to be adopted by an American and she goes back home, knowing that she has done right by her kid. That would be her option.
To: Luis Gonzalez
Nice bit of interpretative history, but the fact is that first, we all fled despots in Europe, then we took a stand on this hemispere. Far from the crowns, and their armies. Pilgrims came to a wilderness and developed it with their blood, sweat and tears. Illegal immigrants come to a land developed by the blood, sweat and tears of others to partake of the goodies without the cost, to which they have no entitlement.
America was built for the builder's posterity, and those that came here by law and willing to become part of its body politic to help build it. Illegal immigrants are and do neither, nor do the vast majority of them assimilate and become American.
152
posted on
01/16/2003 6:11:13 AM PST
by
William Terrell
(Advertise in this space - Low rates)
To: PRND21
Please remove my name from your 'Ping List'.
153
posted on
01/16/2003 6:12:06 AM PST
by
4Freedom
(America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
To: William Terrell
You are 100% correct, William.
All the same, the BR's plan is infinitely preferable to whats being done about the problem now - nothing.
154
posted on
01/16/2003 7:04:10 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: skeeter
Thanks. It's nice to hear a kind word when I'm pissing so many off.
155
posted on
01/16/2003 8:20:10 AM PST
by
William Terrell
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To: William Terrell
If they lack the will and the courage there, they will lack the will and the courage here, and tolerate corruption in our system. We have enough of that now; I sure as hell see no point in importing more of it. You're absolutely right. Parts of southern California are being changed into Mexican colonias, illegal aliens and their relatives are voting for any Mexican-American politician who runs, always liberal, corrupt or not, and conservatives are becoming outnumbered. I call it invasion, but we don't have a chance as long as the President and Congress turn their backs on us in favor of big business who want slave labor profits.
Despite the fact that California's budget deficit is in the billions, the stupid Governor did not say one word about the billions of dollars Californians pay for the care of illegal aliens, not a word. Illegal aliens do pay some taxes, but not enough to make up for the free services that they all receive at our expense. Now we're being forced to bail out overflowing medical facilities, and to build new schools. Insane.
To: janetgreen
. . .the stupid Governor did not say one word about the billions of dollars Californians pay for the care of illegal aliens, not a word. Of course not. Davis was, and plans in the future to be, elected by those illegal aliens.
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posted on
01/16/2003 10:31:38 AM PST
by
William Terrell
(Advertise in this space - Low rates)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, Janet Reno's storm troopers are not the honorable U.S. Military.
160
posted on
01/16/2003 10:49:28 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Every individual human lifetime begins at conception and needs life support to continue for decades)
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