Medical marijuana decision reversed

Long Beach Press Telegram ^ | January 12, 2003 | Wendy Thomas Russell

[MrLeRoy]

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[bigfootbob]

Oh happy day!!! It's appalling to put a sick person through this.

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[Sparta]

Hey Ashcroft, Walters, and Hutchinson; are you three stooges going to put this woman in jail? I thought conservatives were all for states' rights.

[vin-one]

BTTT, another brick coming off the wall.

[jmc813]

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[EBUCK]

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"BTTT, another brick coming off the wall."

[dcwusmc]

Larry, Moe and Curly... I wonder who is which? Not that it matters. They surely exhibit all the characteristics of the Stooges!

[robertpaulsen]

"was medically prescribed to treat her asthma, muscle spasms and migraine headaches."

"The doctor ultimately asserted the Fifth and refused to testify."

Smart move. Also, tells you everything you need to know about this case. (Marijuana for asthma?)

MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS A JOKE!!!

[MrLeRoy]

"The doctor ultimately asserted the Fifth and refused to testify."

Smart move. Also, tells you everything you need to know about this case.

Yes, it tells you that the War On Some Drugs is interfering with doctors' doing what they deem best for their patients' health.

(Marijuana for asthma?)

It's a vasodilator, like commonly prescribed asthma medications.

MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS A JOKE!!!

"there are patients with debilitating symptoms for whom smoked marijuana might provide relief. [...] there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting." - Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base (1999), Institute of Medicine

[tacticalogic]

Also, tells you everything you need to know about this case.

Anytime someone tells me "this is all you need to know" about something, I immediatly start wondering what it is they think I don't need to know, and why.

[robertpaulsen]

Quoting out of context, are we?

"Until a non-smoked, rapid-onset cannabinoid drug delivery system becomes available, we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting. One possible approach is to treat patients as n-of-1 clinical trials, in which patients are fully informed of their status as experimental subjects using a harmful drug delivery system, and in which their condition is closely monitored and documented under medical supervision, thereby increasing the knowledge base of the risks and benefits of marijuana use under such conditions."
-- Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base (1999), Institute of Medicine

I wonder if the woman in the article was "fully informed of their status as experimental subjects using a harmful drug delivery system, and in which their condition is closely monitored and documented under medical supervision"?

What do you think, MrLeRoy?

[robertpaulsen]

"It's a vasodilator, like commonly prescribed asthma medications."

Well, THC itself is a bronchodilator, but is that enough to compensate for the irritation induced by the tars, or for the inhibition of ciliary movement induced by the acetaldehyde?

Name one other commonly prescribed asthma medication which is smoked.

[MrLeRoy]

Quoting out of context, are we?

Nope---nothing in the surrounding text you cite modifies the meaning of the text I quoted.

I wonder if the woman in the article was "fully informed of their status as experimental subjects using a harmful drug delivery system, and in which their condition is closely monitored and documented under medical supervision"?

She was not an "experimental subject" but a patient (experminent was mentioned as "one possible approach"). I have no reason to doubt that she was fully informed of the harms of smoking and her condition was closely monitored and documented under medical supervision.

[MrLeRoy]

"After methacholine-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline inhalation produced minimal changes in specific airway conductance and thoracic gas volume, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol each caused a prompt correction of the bronchospasm and associated hyperinflation. After exercise-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline were followed by gradual recovery during 30 to 60 min, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol caused an immediate reversal of exercise-induced asthma and hyperinflation." - Effects of Smoked Marijuana in Experimentally Induced Asthma, Tashkin et al., American Review of Respiratory Disease v. 112 (1975)

[philman_36]

And today's "line" seems to be that the "drug delivery system" is "harmful".
Another day, another story, another tact.

[thepitts]

End the war on americans, AKA The WOD's, before it's too late.

[robertpaulsen]

If marijuana is found to be medically beneficial for certain illnesses, do you think the "delivery system" will be via smoking? Do you think that the AMA, IOM, NIH, FDA, or your doctor, will recommend smoking marijuana for asthma?

If marijuana is found to have medical benefits, certainly you don't care if the "delivery system" is other than smoking, do you? Or do you have a hidden agenda?