hillary clinton and FUNERALS

1-10-03 | Mia T

[aristeides]

The C-130 carrying Ron Brown crashed. Hillary rode in that very same airplane one week prior in her tour of the Balkans.

Not just in the Balkans, but in Bosnia. Hillary actually visited Tuzla, from which Ron Brown's fatal flight took off a week later. I wonder if someone was organizing a hit.

[Nick Thimmesch]

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[Mia T]

Another O'Reilly exclusive:

September 11 changed a lot of things for me, Bill. I will say this, before September 11, I was definitely mildly myopic in terms of my political agenda. If you were Democrat you were probably right, and if you were a Republican you were probably wrong. Everything changed for me that day...

My entire worldview changed. If you would have told me September 9 that I would have been at the world series game filming George Bush throwing out the first pitch with my 6-year-old son crying, I never would have believed you, but I was. Because my whole worldview changed.

ROSIE O'DONNELL

 

What did he know. . . and when did he know it ?

by Mia T

5.17.02

 

"The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."

bill clinton

 

 

Clinton's FBI Learned In 1995 Of Plot To Use Terror Jetliner

Clinton Warned on Bin Laden Hijack-Kamikaze Plot

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize 

  

 

 

The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:

Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President

by Mia T, 1.06.02

 In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted".

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

 

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

 

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

 

 

 

The Placebo President:

How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist

 

placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment

that arises from the patient's expectations concerning

the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.

 

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath

 

The placebo effect immediately came to mind

as I listened to Shelby Steele,

a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,

debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.

To wit:

A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;

clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.

 

The error in these statements arises, says Steele,

from the belief that

virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility

so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by

one's political positions on issues rather than on

whether or not in one's personal life there is a

consistency and a responsibility.

 

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,

rather than being the amazing advantage

the clintons would have us believe,

in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

 

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous

then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,

that is to say they just represent virtuousness.

They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

 

If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,

clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,

systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .

 

I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.

I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,

producing a real, physiological and social effects.

 

The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.

Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.

The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:

act now, think later

 

bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.

Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."

And please he does

doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.

To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.

Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.

Or to confute his genuine vice.

 

clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)

at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...

or at the hint of high treason...

 

clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.

Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer

so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.

 

The efficaciousness of today's medicines

does not diminish the power of the placebo.

A recent review of placebo-controlled studies

found that placebos and genuine treatments

are often equally effective.

If you expect to get better, you will.

 

Which brings me back to the original question:

Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?

 

Clearly he cannot.

These two propositions are mutually exclusive.

clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.

He has violated his covenant with the American people.

 

Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,

he can no longer function even as a quack;

the placebo effect is gone.

And so the Placebo President must now go, too.

 

 

 

[Mia T]

bump!

 

Related C-130 data:

 

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Unfortunately, there is no conceivable way to pack 150 in a C-130. Been there, done that and it can't be done.

There must be a rest of the story somewhere.

2 posted on 1/6/02 7:54 AM Pacific by Hurtgen

On the contrary, the C-130 Hercules is the perfect tactical transport for the polygamous, philoprogenitive terrorist cum entourage escaping from hostile territory of minimal infrastructure.

Using its aft loading ramp and door, the C-130 can accommodate a wide variety of oversized cargo, including everything from a 6' 5" terrorist to standard palletized, burqaed women, children and terrorist associates. In an aerial delivery role, it can air drop loads up to 42,000 pounds or use its high-floatation landing gear to land and deliver cargo on rough, dirt strips.

Moreover, the flexible design of the Hercules enables it to be rapidly reconfigured should the 6' 5" polygamous, philoprogenitive terrorist cum entourage acquire additional concubines, kids or colleagues on the fly (so to speak).

 

Specifications

Primary Function: Tactical and intratheater airlift
Contractor: Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company
Power Plant: C-130E: Four Allison T56-A-7 turboprops; 4,200 prop shaft horsepower
C-130H: Four Allison T56-A-15 turboprops; 4,591prop shaft horsepower
C-130J: Four Rolls-Royce AE 2100D3 turboprops; 4,591 horsepower
Length: C-130E/H/J: 97 feet, 9 inches (29.3 meters)
C-130J-30: 112 feet, 9 inches (34.69 meters)
Height: 38 feet, 3 inches (11.4 meters)
Wingspan: 132 feet, 7 inches (39.7 meters)
Cargo Compartment: C-130E/H/J: length, 40 feet (12.31 meters); width, 119 inches (3.12 meters); height, 9 feet (2.74 meters). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 meters); width, 119 inches (3.02 meters)
C-130J-30: length, 55 feet (16.9 meters); width, 119 inches (3.12 meters); height, 9 feet (2.74 meters). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 meters); width, 119 inches (3.02 meters)
Speed: C-130E: 345 mph/300 ktas (Mach 0.49) at 20,000 feet (6,060 meters)
C-130H: 366 mph/318 ktas (Mach 0.52) at 20,000 feet (6,060 meters)
C-130J: 417 mph/362 ktas (Mach 0.59) at 22,000 feet (6,706 meters)
C-130J-30: 410 mph/356 ktas (Mach 0.58) at 22,000 feet (6,706 meters)
Ceiling: 33,000 feet (10,000 meters) with 45,000 pounds (17,716 kilograms) payload
Maximum Takeoff Weight: C-130E/H/J: 155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms)
C-130J-30: 164,000 pounds (74,393 kilograms)
Maximum Allowable Payload: C-130E, 45,050 pounds (20,434 kilograms); C-130H, 43,550 pounds (19,754 kilograms); C-130J, 46,631 pounds (21,151 kilograms); C-130J-30, 46,812 pounds (21,234 kilograms)
Maximum Normal Payload: C-130E, 36,720 pounds (16,656 kilograms); C-130H, 35,220 pounds (15,976 kilograms); C-130J, 38,301 pounds (17,373 kilograms); C-130J-30, 38,812 pounds (17,605 kilograms)
Range at Maximum Normal Payload: C-130E, 1,838 miles (1,597 nautical miles); C-130H, 2,006 miles (1,743 nautical miles); C-130J, 2,729 miles (2,371 nautical miles); C-130J-30, 2,897 miles (2,517 nautical miles)
Range with 35,000 pounds of Payload: C-130E, 1,968 miles (1,710 nautical miles); C-130H, 2,023 miles (1,758 nautical miles); C-130J, 3,062 miles (2,660 nautical miles); C-130J-30, 3,269 miles (2,830 nautical miles)
Maximum Load: C-130E/H/J: 6 pallets of 300 children or 150 burqaed wives or 100 terrorists, or a combination of any of these up to the cargo compartment capacity or maximum allowable weight.
C-130J-30: 8 pallets or 97 litters or 24 CDS bundles or 128 combat troops or 92 paratroopers, or a combination of any of these up to the cargo compartment capacity or maximum allowable weight.
Crew: C-130E/H: Five (two pilots, navigator, flight engineer and loadmaster)
C-130J/J-30: Three (two pilots and loadmaster)
Aeromedical Evacuation Role: Minimum medical crew of three is added (one flight nurse and two medical technicians). Medical crew may be increased to two flight nurses and four medical technicians as required by the needs of the patients.
Unit Cost: C-130E, $11.9, C-130H, $30.1, C-130J, $48.5 (FY 1998 constant dollars in millions)
Date Deployed: C-130A, Dec 1956; C-130B, May 1959; C-130E, Aug 1962; C-130H, Jun 1974; C-130J, Feb 1999
Inventory: Active force, 186; Air National Guard, 217; Air Force Reserve, 107

 

 

[Mia T]

Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced concluding that a rapist can be a fit president was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton gave his wife.

[aristeides]

Inventory: Active force, 186; Air National Guard, 217; Air Force Reserve, 107

That's the U.S. Air Force's inventory. Does any other country possess C-130's? Does the Sudan? Does Saudi Arabia?

[RLK]

Brown worked intimately, if subserviently, with hillary.

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Nobody worked intimately with the Clintons. I don't even believe they were intimate with each other. It's a closed corporation in which all others, regardless of temporary physical proximity, are outsiders.

[operation clinton cleanup]

the political plum clinton gave his wife.

Missed that one... what was the plum?

[firewalk]

Hiya Mia (-:
Bttt

[Mia T]

touché
....but Brown did --- if not windows -- certainly trade mission seats -- and the clintons do photo-op funerals; remember wellstone.

The battle-ax's curious absence is significant.

[Mia T]

Don't recall the precise plum. Will try to find it.

[operation clinton cleanup]

The battle-ax's curious absence is significant.

She learned her lesson at the VH-1 concert for New York. Normal people hate her and it was to risky to show up at a non-politacal funeral.

[operation clinton cleanup]

Will try to find it.

If anyone can, you will! Thanks for keeping the clinton legacy real despite the efforts of the clinton cronies to make us forget.

[malia]

just a small (and old) list

MYSTERIOUS DEATHS - ACCIDENTS

Ron Brown, Plane Crash (Commerce, Pathologists question wound to head on x-rays)
Victor Raisner, Plane Crash (National Finance Co-Chair Clinton for President)
R. Montgomery Raiser, Plane Crash (Clinton campaign)
Herschell Friday, Plane Explosion (Presidential Campaign Finance Committee)
Paula Gober, Car Accident (Clinton Speech Interpreter)
Stanley Heard, Plane Crash (Clinton Health Care Advisory Committee)
Steven Dickson, Plane Crash (Clinton Health Care Advisory Committee)
Johnny Lawhon, Car Accident (Found Whitewater Canceled Check in Car after Tornado)
Brian Hassey, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Timothy Sabel, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
William Barkley, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Scott Reynolds, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Betty Currie’s brother, Car/Pedestrian Accident (Key Witness’ brother)
Shelley Kelly, Survived Brown Plane Crash - died hours later (Stewardess)

[hattend]

BTTT

[hattend]

The Saudis have 130s. They used to fly through Lajes Field, Azores when I was there. Don't know about Sudan but I would imagine they do. C130s are everywhere.

[Joy Angela]

Don't miss out on this great collection of
Hillary Episodes!!

THE REAL HILLARY CLINTON: Episode #22 -
The Wind Up, Here Comes the Pitch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820082/posts?page=1

[Joy Angela]

Mia and Quix and Doug,

You three MUST get together and combine your
talents for the Hillary Cards!!

I'm envisioning high-quality trading cards
with assorted snapshots of Hillary etc (such as Mia posts)
with snappy, catchy tibbits (all of you have what it takes
for this part!) on the flip side!!

Can you see it??

The entire HISTORY of Clinton Corruption on a
deck of cards wrapped in plastic.

[thatdewd]

BUMP!

[Claire Voyant]

Her office said that she ONLY attended Fr. Judge's funeral!!! LIARS....

Is it possibly true that Hillary was NOT at Ron Brown's Funeral?? Is that POSSIBLE??? Just where was she?? Croatia perhaps??