Bush May Enter Affirmative Action Case...

Associated Press

[aristeides]

I think Todd reposted Fred's words to show other people agreed that he had not been lying about Howlin's words. The quote may have gone on to include Fred's words towards you, but I do not believe that is what Todd was thinking about.

I'm sure all of us fail sometimes to give a courtesy ping to people tangentially involved in what we post. (I've even been asked by at least one FReeper not to ping him.)

[Fred Mertz]

Thanks for dem big links, Uncle Bill.

[TLBSHOW]

I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I POSTED THAT AND I LEFT YOUR NAME OFF DIDN'T I?

Fact is you idol worshippers want nothing more than to have a one way talk here but it won't happen. If it does than as Fred said its the RU and not a conservative news forum. I believe its a little of both and we can all get over the BS and work to solve problems not fight with each other over serious ones. But work and solve them. My history here is one of support for the President but if he does not take stands it leaves it up to all of us to think this way or that way and end in fights. Either he stands for someyhing as important as this AA is or he does not. Since this is what this thread is about isn't it?

[Texasforever]

[Fred Mertz]

Either he [Bush] stands for someyhing [sic] as important as this AA is or he does not. Since this is what this thread is about isn't it?

That's exactly what this thread is about. I hope Bush does the right thing.

[Uncle Bill]

Latino Groups Urge Bush To Back Affirmative Action - January 9, 2003

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030109-8.html

Q Ari, will the administration be filing a brief in the Supreme Court affirmative action case?

MR. FLEISCHER: That is under review. This is something that the Department of Justice and the White House are reviewing as we speak and no decisions have been made.

Q There's only a week left, so presumably they have to be writing this now. Can you give us a little more on where you are in the process?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the deadline is a week from today. And that's a lot of time.

Q Why wouldn't you?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I'm not indicating whether the administration will or won't, or if we do, what it might say.

Q But the signal landmark case on affirmative action in 25 years, and the U.S. government isn't going to take a position?

MR. FLEISCHER: I didn't say we would or we wouldn't. I'm just saying it's a matter that's under review, precisely because it is a landmark case and a case that's important and a case that the President, who is very sensitive to issues involving diversity and opportunity for all, wants to make sure that it's approached in a thorough and careful, deliberative manner. And so there is one week remaining on the court given deadline for when an amicus brief would have to be filed. And so it remains an issue under review.

[Mo1]

I think Todd reposted Fred's words to show other people agreed that he had not been lying about Howlin's words.

And anyone that knows Howlin, knows she would never support Jesse Jackson .. She made a mistake and said so but yet that doesn't seem to be enough for Todd ..

[TLBSHOW]

And if I recall she asked you to stop pinging her and to stop posting to her several times

yes she did and she was the first to break that rule by posting to me if you want the facts. And I warned her that if I am attacked I will attack back, they don't hate me with a passion at rat sites and say I should wear a bullet proof jacket for no reason. I am a Liberal basher and they know it! I eat William Pitt for breakfast and spit him in out don't expect me to turn wimpy here when I am attacked.

Anyways MO1 nothing personal but you need to get the facts before taking sides.

[ohioWfan]

Sorry, but in post #109, TLB posted Fred's insult to me with only a bttt added........that is, he apparently wanted to bump an irrelevant, and rather bizarre insult that Fred leveled at me to the top...... for no apparent reason. It had nothing to do with anyone's lying about anything. I find that quite strange.

At any rate, there is nothing being accomplished here on this thread, and I don't wish to hang around to be (irrationally) insulted further.

Thanks for trying to help, though. (I mean that....there is no sarcasm intended.)

Courtesy ping to TLB and Fred.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

What a sorry way to lead one's life.

Yes, well, I have my suspicions regarding what conditions (physical and emotional) might be behind this sort of behavior - but in any case, it most certainly is a sorry way to lead one's life. People who hide behind computer screens and say things to others they would never in a million years have the guts to say to a person's face do not impress me.

[aristeides]

I think you're being a bit loose in your use of tenses. Until Howlin cleared up the matter on this thread, many of us -- including me, to whom her words were addressed -- naturally interpreted those words to mean she agreed with Jesse Jackson. TLBSHOW's reaction to her words was a very natural one.

[Mo1]

Anyways MO1 nothing personal but you need to get the facts before taking sides.

First .. I have been trying to stay fair .. and if I was to take sides .. You would know it

I have been watching what has been going on for some time .. just like I watched what happen over at the other site .. and as I suggested before .. drop it

[Fred Mertz]

At any rate, there is nothing being accomplished here on this thread, and I don't wish to hang around to be (irrationally) insulted further.

That's what I was trying to tell you earlier. Why are you being so obtuse?

[TLBSHOW]

Why not stay and help solve and end this issue its about AA.
And ending the battle between us all, check my tags and check just when I took off the Howlin dig. Look at her tag and when she took off the slam at me.

[Intolerant in NJ]

I would blame neo-con pundits even more than Republican senators (or, for that matter, Democratic Senators). The neo-cons turned the molehill into the mountain and the politicians, including Bush, merely jumped on the bandwagon...bump - too bad the politicians had go through the kabuki dance with trumped-up implications of "racism" which tarnished the entire party, when, if they really wanted to be rid of Lott, they could have worked to vote for somebody else for ML in the elections three months ago......

[ohioWfan]

I am not an idol worshipper, and you are out of line to start your post that way. I respect and admire the President for his integrity and his honesty, and I make no apologies for that. I do not agree with him on everything, and he is not as conservative in some areas as I would prefer, but I trust that he will do what HE thinks is best for this country, and am not egotistical enough to think he is wrong because he doesn't dot every i the way I want him to.

I believe that he will do the right thing with regard to this decision. He is opposed to AA, and has said so recently. The point of this thread is a discussion of this issue, and that's what I came on it to say.

Good night, Todd.

[ohioWfan]

What an odd little man you are, freddy.

[Texasforever]

Until Howlin cleared up the matter on this thread, many of us

If by "many of us" you mean TLB, Mertz and you then you have a skewed sense of proportion when it comes to the term "many". Yes I searched the entire thread and it was only you 3.

[Howlin]

Here is the exact exchange. You can CLEARLY see that I used two different names.

To: Howlin; TLBSHOW

I see that once again you have failed to criticize Jesse Jackson. I wonder why.

59 posted on 01/10/2003 9:51 PM EST by aristeides
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To: aristeides

Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.

It's lying that I don't agree with. Patterson is NOT the liar on this thread.

60 posted on 01/10/2003 9:52 PM EST by Howlin (Ignore Todd Spam)
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[aristeides]

Are you saying there was another reasonable interpretation of Howlin's words (before she came out with her explanation)?