PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNS WETLANDS ACT

The Democrat.com ^ | January 07, 2003 | James L. Cummins

[justshe]

So I've been told...re: being a decent chap. I have seen no evidence of that over the last couple of months.

[Texasforever]

What's wrong with ballot initiaves?

Nothing if you want to open a whole can of worms. The reason Bush could not support that initiative is that it would have made an end-run around numerous state and federal laws and that he swore an oath to uphold.

[Howlin]

He is just trying to entertain himself. Right now, FR is his target

So you're saying he's a disruptor?

[nunya bidness]

Alligator Alley is in Broward, not Dade.

You're right. Broward and Collier county.

However wetlands legislation affects the whole of South Florida. You're a smart guy, dig a little and you'll find that the entirety of environmental law is based on treaties. Not legislation and rarely voted on in public.

For example check the dates and times of most environmental/treaty law votes. Generally they are made late at night on the last day of a session.

Does that sound like a transparent body?

And this is why it is important that control of issues like these be turned over to the States. So people can vote Senators out.

And they call libertarians utopians. Want to see who can hold their breath longer?

[Torie]

Silence is golden. No comment.

[Jhoffa_]

I dunno, I always considered them as fulfilling part of the Tenth Amendment.

[TLBSHOW]

Republicans Cave on Campaign Finance

Bush has indicated that he will sign McCain-Feingold if it passes Congress.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/18/170736.shtml

[Torie]

How is sausage made?

[Luis Gonzalez]

I'll dig.

Thanks.

[Fred Mertz]

No comment.

Best thing you said in years.

[Texasforever]

dunno, I always considered them as fulfilling part of the Tenth Amendment.

On the surface yes but when a ballot initiative is in direct conflict with federal law the constitution gives supremacy to the Feds. That is exactly why the various pot laws have gone nowhere because no state government will defend a law passed outside the legislature.

[Torie]

The Ever So Humble Banana Republican

Did you move to Hondurus? If so, no wonder you have so much time for FR. You could afford hired help for the more menial everyday tasks there. :)

Another Torie trash post special.

[Howlin]

ROFL........why did you post that? Can't figure out how to answer any of the MANY questions we've asked you?

Fraud.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Hate the weather in Honduras, but I love the cigars.

[Jhoffa_]

I can see their reluctance to take on the FED, believe me.. But a little defiance would be a nice way to keep FEDGOV in it's constitutional box.

Like Davis saying Cali has the right to impose higher pollution standards than the EPA calls for. He doesn't admit it straight out, but he's making a "States Rights" argument and defying the FED.

I also think he's right. (I can't believe I said that..)

[Torie]

You would be suprised how often I decline to opine on the merits of a matter, whether it is because I don't post at all on a matter, or, as is often the case, I actually post that I am not sufficiently informed to opine, or simply ask questions. Granted such declination posts are not made quite as often as when I do choose to opine, but I suspect I have more declination posts than most. Whatever.

[TLBSHOW]

Jeb Bush signed an executive order to end affirmative action programs in Florida.

[Texasforever]

Like Davis saying Cali has the right to impose higher pollution standards than the EPA calls for.

Hell California already exceeds EPA requirements. I don't see that as "challenging the Feds".

[Fred Mertz]

blah...blah...blah

Say it in a sentence.

[TLBSHOW]

Bush has indicated that he will sign McCain-Feingold

yep signs a bill from 2 commie rats!