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Shannon Reeves' Response to Bill Back (CRP's own Lott) Email Fiasco
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Posted on 01/08/2003 12:17:20 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Fred Mertz
41
posted on
01/08/2003 1:27:20 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(What is it about democrats? Are they really this evil? The answer is yes...)
To: skeeter; Poohbah; mhking; rdb3; JohnHuang2
No, the strategy is NOT to give them the ammo to use, and to select party leaders like Bill Frist who will GET RESULTS and GET PEOPLE ELECTED. If you don't win the election, you don't to pursue your agenda. In fact, usually someone OPPOSED to your agenda gets in, and he'll work to undo the progress you've made.
42
posted on
01/08/2003 1:27:32 PM PST
by
hchutch
(Trillions for defense, not one cent for tribute.)
To: hchutch
I hadn't really paid attention to this until this article today. This is absolutely stupid behavior, and he should apologize and withdraw. Period.
As a side issue, I would like to ask all the people who think this is no big deal, how hard is it for you to be a Republican?
Does your family call you names? Do your neighbors call you a sell-out? Are you constantly ignored at party meetings or conventions because clueless nitwits think you are at the wrong place, or are hired help?
Personally, I think minorities who stick with the GOP despite such stupid behavior by some of our members should be appreciated for the dedicated people that they are, and I would rather have more people like Shannon Reeves and less people like Bill Back.
43
posted on
01/08/2003 1:39:20 PM PST
by
Miss Marple
(Confusion to the enemy...and we know who they are!)
To: hchutch
From the letter:
I am sick and tired of being embarrassed by elected Republican officials who have no sensitivity for issues that alienate whole segments of our population.
Me too.
This ass-clown distributes, through an official party publication, an article entitled: "What If The South Had Won The Civil War?" Now, look. I don't even need to read the damn article to surmise that it's probably gonna contain some fairly controversial topics. I should probably read it to make sure there's nothing in there that might be offensive.
And I should probably stop and ask myself if the damn thing is even relevant to California Republican politics.
The issue isn't necessarily whether the guy is racist. It's does he have the requisite sensitivity and discernment to be an effective leader of a party that needs to reach out and attract more minority support.
To: borkrules; mhking; Miss Marple; JohnHuang2; Congressman Billybob; Jim Robinson
PRECISELY!!!
This is a winner, folks.
It's not about race, it's not about caving in, IT'S ABOUT GETTING EFFECTIVE LEADERS WHO HELP CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES WIN ELECTIONS AND THEREBY BE IN A POSITION TO ENACT A CONSERVATIVE AGENDA.
I don't care how conservative someone is, if he says or does something that would offend people who might otherwise be voting for conservative candidates, then he is a LIABILITY to the movement. I want more people like bill Frist in leadership positions.
RESULTS and ACTION matter.
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posted on
01/08/2003 1:50:26 PM PST
by
hchutch
(Trillions for defense, not one cent for tribute.)
To: Poohbah
Thank you,sir,for those comments!Statements that Bach made just reinforce the perception already rampant in minority communities that the GOP is full of bigots.
Shannon Reeves made some excellent points.Lott type comments and people coming on this forum bashing Kwaanza and using Ebonics language styles in a sarcastic manner is no way to win over more blacks who might agree with much of the fiscally and culturally conservative aspects of the Republican agenda.
To: hchutch; Miss Marple; aristeides
highlight stump speeches at Bob Jones University,
Anyone care to answer that slam at President Bush?
47
posted on
01/08/2003 2:08:41 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(What is it about democrats? Are they really this evil? The answer is yes...)
To: TLBSHOW
Anyone care to answer that slam at President Bush?Would someone explain to me what is so damn important about speaking at BJU that Republicans must do so? That is one of the few truly boneheaded moves Bush made during the primary campaign; only the fact that Gore made many, many more boneheaded mistakes, and did so on national TV, allowed Bush to get away with it.
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posted on
01/08/2003 2:11:51 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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To: Riverman94610
people coming on this forum bashing Kwaanza and using Ebonics language styles in a sarcastic manner is no way to win over more blacks who might agree with much of the fiscally and culturally conservative aspects of the Republican agenda. Bashing Kwanzaa (a made up holiday by a leftist black nationalist) and Ebonics (a somewhat crippled dialect encouraged by multiculturalists) is part and parcel of being culturally conservative.
To: AppyPappy
We don't ask him because we have already drawn the conclusion. I'm not interested in what some leftist rag did. The Republicans should ask him. And keep asking him until he ponies up. We shouldn't allow the media and the Dems to make decisions for us.Nonsense! He can't just act as if the media and the Democrats don't exist, and that he can ignore them! As a spokesman for the party, he's public property! He's supposed to be able to answer those questions regardless of who asks!
By the way, re your reference to Robert Bork: did you note what Freeper "borkrules" says on this thread?
To: ExpandNATO
Bashing Kwanzaa (a made up holiday by a leftist black nationalist) and Ebonics (a somewhat crippled dialect encouraged by multiculturalists) is part and parcel of being culturally conservative. Exposing them, yes. Being dismissive of them, yes. If what you mean by "bashing" is being deliberately offensive, no. Then you're just being an idiot.
To: ExpandNATO
The neocons who have come to dominate this board don't care about whether or not something is culturally conservative. "Outreach" trumps conservatism. It's all about power and winning elections, don't you know? Who cares if everything that winning those elections was supposed to be about gets tossed overboard in the process?
To: L.N. Smithee
If what you mean by "bashing" is being deliberately offensive, no. Then you're just being an idiot.Hear, hear, well spoken!
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posted on
01/08/2003 2:23:26 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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To: ExpandNATO; Riverman94610
Kwaanza started by a man who tortured women
,,,,,,
Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming invention of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the SLA's revolutionary principles: Umojo, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and Imani -- precisely the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.
Ann Coulter
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posted on
01/08/2003 2:24:32 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(What is it about democrats? Are they really this evil? The answer is yes...)
To: TLBSHOW
OK, and making Kwaanza jokes, and using Ebonics, when referring to anything connected to any African-American, advances conservatism in the following fashion: _________________.
(Fill in the blank.)
55
posted on
01/08/2003 2:28:34 PM PST
by
Poohbah
(This tagline available, Freepmail me for rates)
To: aristeides
I need for you to explain to me what's "conservative" about an article that helpfully explicates the reasons why it would have been good if the South won the Civil War. Or what relevance this has to the California GOP.
Some folks here have a disturbing tendency to be completely out to lunch when it comes to political realities. We've got serious, contested, electoral battles to win before we ever get to the point where we can implement conservative policy solutions that will reverse our slide. This kind of bombastic "eff 'em if they can't take a joke" mentality is NOT helping.
To: borkrules
I was responding to #49, which was not about that article. Perhaps you could learn to read more carefully.
To: borkrules
Careful, the "real conservaitves" will go into a fit if you mention such things as "political realities" in response to their hissy-fits over the latest transgression of "principle" by Bush or some other officeholder...
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posted on
01/08/2003 2:34:49 PM PST
by
hchutch
(Trillions for defense, not one cent for tribute.)
To: Poohbah; Bella_Bru
Bob Dole, Alan Keyes,Steve Forbes, Ronald Reagan are under attack from this post of Bella_Bru. Should they all bug out now because they spoke at Bob Jones?
Are you planning on trashing them too?
This an attack on republicans and is just more white fear BS!
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posted on
01/08/2003 2:35:15 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(What is it about democrats? Are they really this evil? The answer is yes...)
To: aristeides
There is nothing in your post that would limit your comments to the points raised in post #49.
Perhaps you could learn to write more clearly.
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