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EXCLUSIVE EXCERPT: David Frum's "The Right Man"
The Hill ^ | 1/8/03 | David Frum

Posted on 01/08/2003 10:24:48 AM PST by Jean S

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To: Marysecretary
"I can only stand in faith and believe that God is in control, not me."

This phrase once indicated a stoic ability to endure hardship and stay morally upright, a lá Job. Now it indicates a bland, dogmatically banal affability, a lack of intellectual ability, a disguised hostility to reason, and an enthusiastic surrender of one's right to make critical life affecting decisions to congregational group-think and group hypnosis. This was not always so.

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"One problem, and a failure, of religion has been that it has been founded exclusively on what is called faith. When that faith is challenged by differing assertions, adherents become defenseless and frightened in their absence of developed, reality-based intellect. In other cases, religious conversion and participation are based upon moving emotional experience. When something else subsequently moves people emotionally, or when the emotional glow wears thin, they are left abandoned and vulnerable. Even within their religion, they are left vulnerable. When their religious institutions become corrupt, they are too dependent or emotionally bound to resist that corruption. Too many among the religious are left desperately seizing on religion in terror to avoid their intellectual helplessness. That is not a healthy hold on a congregation. It is not an appealing condition to convert into. The clergy need to function as rational psychologists as well as guardians of faith. Any minister who does not devote as much time sermonizing the rational basis and need for morality, for ethics, for personal psychological honesty as he does sermonizing the Bible is guilty of betraying his congregation. There needs to be as much reality-thumping as Bible-thumping." From: My Quarrel With Religion in America

81 posted on 01/10/2003 11:54:29 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Faith IS what we base our "religion" on. If we didn't have faith to believe what the Bible tells us, we're lost. I agree that pastors need to speak about moral values, holiness, purity, living a life that's righteous before Him. Only then do we see the Kingdom of God--not by our good works but by our faith in Jesus Christ. We just have to agree to disagree Mortimer. I'm not moving and either are you.
82 posted on 01/11/2003 12:29:41 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: copycat
The leftist press is pushing this book as some sort record of "discontent" at the White House.

I know. Let 'em. More people will read the book as a result. Bush/(Rove's) masterful political jujitsu has convinced me, after years of bitterness, that liberal media bias has been a good thing for Republicans.

Because the media aggressively questions conservative policies, and because liberal ideas are not so stringently or relentlessly challenged, our ideas are more carefully honed and more effective than those of the libs (where they may charitably be said to have ideas). For the same reason conservatives have developed more articulate and direct explanations for why their policies are better. Libs get by on good intentions, or by impuging bad intentions to conservatives.

Because the media chronicles and trumpets each misstep by conservatives, they have become more sure footed. Because the media won't let us ignore them, real problems are dealt with. On the liberal side such problems are allowed to persist and fester.

As an example, contrast Senators Lott and Murray. Lott was forced to pay a price for his verbal gaff. He was seen to be punished, he was seen to agonize over the assumptions he held that led to the statement, and he was compelled to revise early and inadequate non-apology apologies. None of this is true in Murray's case, and the issue of her comments will have much more "bite" when inevitably revisisted by a challenger. Now Trent may lose and Patty may win, but if so this will be due to factors of demographics and the like within their respective states. I would still hold that the media double standard led Lott to do more mitigation (however bumbling) than he would otherwise have done, and has led Murray to do almost none. In the long run this will hurt Dims.

As an even better example, contrast Nixon and Clinton. There is no way in hell, even adjusting for all relevant differences in the historical contexts, that Republicans would have, or would have been allowed to, treat former President Nixon as Dims have treated Clinton. Sure Nixon hurt Republicans bad enough as it was, but can you imagine how much greater in magnitude and duration the effects would have been if Nixon had been hailed by rank and file Republicans as a beloved and important leader after he left office? What if Nixon had been allowed to hand pick the RNC chairman? What if he had been allowed to run the Party apparatus in a major state and edge out a primary contender in the gubenatorial race. What if he had been allowed to dictate the national distribution of Party campaign funds?

The effect would have been that Republican would have been branded with the stigma of Nixon for at least a decade. That could even have meant no Reagan. Imagine that, no Reagan. If the Dims have anything like a Reagan out there (sorry for the disgusting comparison) he or she has much less chance to emerge in a corrupt party that has willingly embraced its clintonization. And that's a good thing!

83 posted on 01/11/2003 1:19:52 PM PST by Stultis
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To: section9
Good, very good!
84 posted on 01/11/2003 1:27:02 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Zack Nguyen
He gave them a chance to change their true colors... obviously, they didn't want to. Why fault Bush?
85 posted on 01/11/2003 1:39:57 PM PST by marajade
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To: JeanS
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86 posted on 01/11/2003 1:55:33 PM PST by Stultis
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To: JeanS; All
The President got exactly what he wanted ...

EXPOSURE OF THE DEM/LIBERAL PARTISAN HACKS IN THE CONGRESS!!

I do believe he did it on purpose - just to expose them for their partisanship garbage, while they screamed about the partianship of repubs. We must always remember that to a dem/lib, non-partian really means: do it the dem way.

I think Bush has done a masterful job - and once again the dems/libs underestimated his ability to run circles around them.
87 posted on 01/11/2003 1:58:35 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: x
In domestic affairs, GWB is a defensive politician

I don't think so. I think he is on the offensive in domestic affairs, with his own blend of conservatism, which some don't, but I don't care about labels. He is not afraid to push in the domestic arena what he cares about, whether it is tax policy or education, or whatever. He is a moderate conservative overall (but not that moderate on certain issues), and of course disappoints those who are more to the right, but Bush never suggested he was otherwise. Bush may have flaws, but false advertising is not one of them.

88 posted on 01/11/2003 9:14:55 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
According to David Frum, Bush won't even let them put things like "I'm glad to be here" in his speeches.
89 posted on 01/11/2003 9:17:01 PM PST by Howlin (In your dreams)
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To: Marysecretary
You really didn't understand the post, did you?

90 posted on 01/11/2003 10:05:13 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Torie
It looks like Bush is for more government initiatives in some areas of social policy and for more federal action if not always more spending. When I think about it, I have to admit that you are right that this is more a matter of long-standing conviction rather than of advantage and convenience. But Bush's approach is so different from the rhetoric of the Reagan and Gingrich years, that it's natural for me to think that someone will be left holding the bag, whether liberals or conservatives. It looks like a return to Eisenhower-Nixon-Ford Republicanism, though Bush is more solid on the culture war issues that became so prominent in subsequent decades. Many limited-government and low-tax conservatives were critical of those administrations. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help fearing that in both foreign and domestic policy the overconfidence of the 1960s may be coming back, with all the problems that it brought.
91 posted on 01/12/2003 9:14:06 AM PST by x
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To: copycat
The leftist press is pushing this book as some sort record of "discontent" at the White House.

I think that Frum knows how to market a White House book to get media attention. Why do I think he released excerpts early so that it would appear to be a book of discontent, but in the larger context paints Bush sympathetically.

92 posted on 01/12/2003 9:35:38 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: RLK
I'm too honest and serious to qualify for the job.

And humble, don't forget humble.

93 posted on 01/12/2003 9:42:59 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Mortimer Snavely; Miss Marple
I work in a hospital, on the ICU psychiatric ward,

Attention security! Another patient is impersonating the staff. Attention!

94 posted on 01/12/2003 9:49:18 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Stultis
Excellent!

I'd add one more thing: since the liberal bias in the media is so pervasive and uniform, they are easy to predict. Hence, they can be played like a fiddle by a deft enough musician, such as Rove.

95 posted on 01/12/2003 9:54:13 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Howlin
OK, now I am thinking I am going to buy the book. First I wasn't, then I was, then I wasn't....aaargh!!

Before I shuffle off this mortal coil, I want some books from the major players of this time in our history...Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Roce, and Laura and George Bush.

Frum is probably the closest we will get for a long time, so I am going to buy the book and read it. It HAS to be better than Woodward's, who has the writing skills of a high-school junior.

96 posted on 01/12/2003 11:05:16 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: AmishDude
One of the most endearing qualities of President Bush is his humility. I am glad to see he has inspired others to emulate him.
97 posted on 01/12/2003 11:08:15 AM PST by Miss Marple (Trying very hard not to laugh.)
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To: Miss Marple
Hey, taglines don't appear in "My Comments"! If I didn't click on the link, I wouldn't have seen your tagline -- the best part of your post.
98 posted on 01/12/2003 11:41:57 AM PST by AmishDude (No offense.)
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To: Howlin
The President also objected one day when, in the White House, he was preparing a radio address to be broadcast in California the next day when he arrived. The address said, "I am so happy to be here in California"...he said, "But I'm NOT in California!" He took the line out. LOL! Talk about honesty!
99 posted on 01/12/2003 11:52:55 AM PST by Wait4Truth (I HATE THE MEDIA!!!)
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To: Miss Marple
See my post #99 to Howlin. This was also in the book. Buy the book! LOL!
100 posted on 01/12/2003 11:55:38 AM PST by Wait4Truth (I HATE THE MEDIA!!!)
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