Sex Industry Polishes Image with Charitable Acts

CNSNews.com ^ | January 7, 2003 | Michael L. Betsch

[WileyC]

But in my opinion, the strip bars here suck. I much prefer the Canadian Ballet!

Yeah, but try to get the Prima Donna to give you a lap dance! =)

[Phantom Lord]

A lap dance at the Ballet is far superior.

[Winfield]

This is not something new. Check your psychology books. I think it is called something like, "The Lady McBeth Syndrome" (Out damn spot!!!) Years ago when I was a social worker in N.Y., the local prostitutes were always "big givers" at Christmas to programs for children.

[Bob]

Phillip Morris did the same thing, only after they gave $105m to charity, they spent $115m to tell everyone that they gave $105m to charity.

So you'd prefer that they hadn't given the $105 mil?

I suppose that they could have counted on the media publicizing their donations and saved the $115 mil. I'm sure that it would have received very good coverage, NOT.

[bvw]

Some "like the cheerleaders", eh?

[A true story of your more typical lapdancer]
"Woman Found in Child-Starvation Case in New Jersey"

[bvw]

The atmosphere in and around strip club does breed crime. More indirectly, by lowering the bar of expectations, and diluting, removing, even mocking the sense of shame that should accompany working in or attending such a place.

There is also direct crime -- prostituion, pimping, drug-selling, slavery, extortion, bribery, robbery, common in these places. In nearly every case they degrade the spirit.

I'm not a absolutist -- in a uncommon times and places some small number of these places may be a help. I'd rather not go into why, and wherefore, because people are prideful.

[MrLeRoy]

The atmosphere in and around strip club does breed crime. More indirectly, by lowering the bar of expectations, and diluting, removing, even mocking the sense of shame that should accompany working in or attending such a place.

How does a lowered sense of shame about working in or attending such a place lead to crime?

There is also direct crime -- prostituion, pimping, drug-selling, slavery, extortion, bribery, robbery, common in these places.

You didn't address my suggestion that these crimes might be merely relocated rather than bred by the strip club.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Bump for later read.

Go strippers go.

[bvw]

How does a lowered sense of shame about working in or attending such a place lead to crime?

Thoughts of possible criminal acts occur in all to some level. What stops them? Lack of opportunity, cost, amoung others. Shame is at least a cost. By creating an environment which shuts down shame, criminal acts more easily move from concept to actuality, and as each does, it creates the path, the example, for others to follow.

[MrLeRoy]

By creating an environment which shuts down shame

How does being at a strip club reduce one's shame about robbing?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

"Whether you're in the ball-bearing business or the ball-exciting business, you've got a responsibility to give back to the community...

[Hemingway's Ghost]

even mocking the sense of shame that should accompany working in or attending such a place.

Isn't up to the individual to decide for himself what is and what isn't shameful? You sound like a tongue-clucker.

[bvw]

Shame is like a cloth -- break some fibers in a spot, or a tear ... the whole cloth is weakened. This is like many, most, perhaps all emotions, joy, happiness, anger, etc. For example a joke, a diversion, can break a small spot in a man's anger, even if that anger was focused elsewhere, and so lessen or break the anger.

[bvw]

You hear what you read? That is your own mind's tongue clucking.

[bvw]

Were you around FR a couple of mornings ago when we were visited by "leather pride"?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

You hear what you read? That is your own mind's tongue clucking.

Yawn.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Were you around FR a couple of mornings ago when we were visited by "leather pride"?

I don't think so. What happened?

[bvw]

Leather pride posted some very "provocative" pictures -- spammed them. Seems like the moderators had taken a layoff for a while.

[bvw]

Zen is boring, I agree.

[MrLeRoy]

Shame is like a cloth -- break some fibers in a spot, or a tear ... the whole cloth is weakened. This is like many, most, perhaps all emotions

But what prevents crime is not an ever-present emotion of shame (which few people have) but the ever-present CAPACITY to feel that emotion.