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Newspaper Publishes Names and Addresses of CCW Holders
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Posted on 01/05/2003 6:38:23 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: sam_paine
I suppose it could have been scanned in, databased and either rejected or accepted but no alarm was raised because 9not surprisingly) it hasn't been found to match prints tied to criminal activity.
I suppose it's also possible that it was merely forwarded to some federal agency and either sits in limbo or has suffered a similar fate as described above.
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posted on
01/06/2003 7:46:56 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Jhoffa_
Mine are locked up or on me. Always. We had a nasty incident a couple of years ago where somebody on the run from the police broke into a house where the guns weren't locked up and got into a standoff situation with what he found there. That owner or any other one like him can kiss his firearms goodbye - they'll never leave the evidence room, or if they do they won't be shootable.
But I do think that your point is a good one, and is at least in part what the newspaper had in mind. One of the major gun prohibitionist arguments is that criminals steal guns from honest people, hence honest people shouldn't be allowed to have any. If they can help that argument out a little, so much the better, and anyone who thinks that they would never stoop that low doesn't know many anti-gun fanatics. Would they ever stoop to deliberately seeing that this list got into the hands of criminals, in the hopes that it would result in violence to a despised class? Yep, they just did exactly that.
To: Billthedrill
Would they ever stoop to deliberately seeing that this list got into the hands of criminals, in the hopes that it would result in violence to a despised class? Yep, they just did exactly that.
I think it's quite possible.
And while the list might well scare away petty crooks and two bit types, hardcore criminals know that to steal guns you first have to go where the guns are.
Just like car thieves, if you want to steal high dollar cars, then you first have to deal with high dollar security systems. That's part of it and a "professional" criminal won't be deterred.
And now they have a list to aid them.
I hope there is a lawsuit that comes out of this. It's completely unnecessary and unjustified.
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posted on
01/06/2003 7:59:15 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Poohbah
Now, if I wasn't a CCW holder in the Winchester area, I'd be extremely PO'd, because the newspaper just told the criminal element that I'm probably a safe target to rob :o)![](http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/Jumanji/Cast/Images/van2.gif)
Unless the elephant guns being harbored in those unlisted homes are just too heavy to carry to make a CCW permit practical. ;)
To: Jhoffa_
I think I was a crook in another life...
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posted on
01/06/2003 8:03:00 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Cultural Jihad
Watch as they break into a home inhabited by a family into the Afghani "celebratory fire" tradition, complete with machine guns and RPGs :o)
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posted on
01/06/2003 8:04:18 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: muggs
bump
To: Billthedrill
'If I thought it wouldn't be an act of potential liability folly, I'd have a sign on my door "break on in, come on down, owner is armed and needs the target practice." Of course, I'd have it in Spanish and Chinese and Estonian as well - I wouldn't want anyone to think I wasn't multicultural...'
ROTF
To: Cultural Jihad
So the infinite plethora of mighta coulda woulda and what-if scenarios are enough to guide public policy? I didn't say anything about public policy. I just gave some reasons why people wouldn't want their names in the paper.
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posted on
01/06/2003 11:24:20 PM PST
by
timm22
To: MineralMan
[The NRA will] be happy to sell you the lists.Then why I have I not received a single piece of junk mail relating to guns, outdoors, hunting, or the like for three years?
If they're selling the lists, my name must somehow be excluded.
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posted on
01/07/2003 5:07:14 AM PST
by
angkor
To: Jhoffa_
...because (not surprisingly) it hasn't been found to match prints tied to criminal activity.Exactly...but we can deduce that they have not even pulled my print for comparison...yet. You can't compare fingerprints without reducing the image to what they call "minutia points." The places where the lines split and join and end. These are measured on a radial coordinate system that self-aligns when you compare them.
So they would've had to encode my image into the very small bit of data req'd to "have my minutia points on file."
But that's when the computer would balk at having a crummy image. So it's clear to me that they haven't encoded my print, or did try and just omitted my "minutia points" from the database.
Either way, they refused to tell me what they were going to do with the print (future use they said) and at least now I have some level of feedback/control over when/if they use it.
To: Shooter 2.5
"Suppose you explain how you are getting your Second Amendment Rights back."I didn't give them away to begin with, nor allow them to be stolen.
ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Stupid sheople don't need no Bill of Rights, do they?
To: S.O.S121.500
Really?
So while everyone else is fighting for their Rights by joining gun groups, mailing letters, making phone calls, standing outside the polls, contributing to A rated candidates and spending money that could have gone to guns and ammo, somehow you have your complete gun rights.
So who are you that somehow you can buy a gun without paperwork from a gunshop, carry on an airliner or even own a gun in a place like Washington D.C.? Chuck Schumer? Some dem bigwig?
To: Shooter 2.5
Couldn't tell if you were bleating or begging, so:
Read and Studyfor Newby Boots.
To: Mortimer Snavely
bumped for newbies to read
To: timestax
Thank You.....bump
To: timestax
bump for newbies to read about this horrible event!
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