Felony Stop Leaves Family Traumatized

Herald-Citizen ^ | 01/02/03 | Mary Jo Denton

[galt-jw]

Honey, I don't know you any better than you know me. The response I made to you was from a quote YOU made. And, in the context you presented it, as something that you conceded, as in "OK JHoffa, THIS is jackboots in action. I do have a limit to my forgiveness of cops! ."

Apparently, you have had a difficulty in identifying jackboots, from the statement YOU made. Apparently, you have been apologetic to cops, and now you admit a "limit." How noble!

At least it was the dogs that were shot. You seem to be able to understand the inhumanity of that. Were the humans gunned down, as happens every day, you apparently would side with the cops, after they gave the "official" story, as they always do.

I do have a limit to my forgiveness of cops!

You said it. The very statement implies that you are an apologist for cop behavior.

Congratulations on this stunning, crystalline epiphany.

[IronJack]

The Index has been copied and expanded (with examples) for training the pathologically illogical.

[NormsRevenge]

The ordeal went on for a time after that, the family terrified and in grief over the dog.

Finally, after a time, someone in authority figured out that the officers here had stopped and were holding the very family that someone in Davidson County had assumed had been robbed, though how that assumption grew to the authorization for a felony stop, James Smoak cannot understand, he said today. "Finally, they asked me my name and I told them my name, date of birth, and other information, and they talked by radio to someone in Davidson County and finally realized that a mistake had been made," he said.

"A lady in Davidson County had seen that wallet fly off our car and had seen money coming out of it and going all over the road, and somehow that became a felony and they made a felony stop, but no robbery or felony had happened," Pamela Smoak said.

"Apparently, they had listened to some citizen with a cell phone and let her play detective down there," said James Smoak.

"Here we are just a family on vacation, and we had to suffer this."

When the officers did discover the mistake, "they said, 'Okay, we're releasing you and we're sorry,'" Smoak said.

As soon as Brandon was released from the handcuffs, he rushed over to the dead dog and began to cry, Smoak said.

And that's when one of the most infuriating parts of the ordeal happened, according to James Smoak.

"I saw one of the THP officers walk over to the city officer who had shot the dog and grin," he said.

He reported that to the supervising officer, THP Lt. Jerry Andrews, and Andrews "was very nice, very professional," Smoak said.

"He told me the officer was not laughing, but I know he was," said Smoak.

[Copernicus]

The Index has been copied and expanded (with examples) for training the pathologically illogical.

Really? Where? I'll start using that version instead!

Best regards,

[HairOfTheDog]

I mean what I said.

I support good law enforcement and I have been on threads, with Mr. JHoffa, where I defended the actions of law enforcement in the circumstances on those threads.

I will give a policeman a lot of the benefit of the doubt. I am pro law-enforcement, which used to be a position of all good conservatives.

Unfortunately, there are some among us who now just bash cops.

You want to blame all cops for this, which I find to be not only ridiculous, but unhelpful. Get the bad cops out, but when you paint them all with the same brush, you marginalize yourself. I am not going to listen to the suggestions of a cop hater on how to solve this problem.

Nor am I the deserving recipient of your tantrum. This is my free time. I am not here to be ranted at by you.

[Flyer]

I am not here to be ranted at by you.

I can almost picture the jackboots galt-jw was wearing thoughout that rant.

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Houston Area Texans

[TaZ]

This family should be glad that they are helping to save Amerika from the terrorist!

It's the least they can do for the Father-Homeland Security agents...

The Patriot Act made it possible for these heroes of the republic (the ones who mercy killed this families dog) to come into your home in the middle of the night without knocking to see if your wife and children are sleeping soundly.

Amerika; Land of the sleaze, Home of the knave.

[galt-jw]

You want to blame all cops for this, which I find to be not only ridiculous, but unhelpful.

Of course, if you could read, you would have not made such an innane statement.

Posting pictures of your doggy really shows that you are so very serious.

Perhaps the next time you could leave the post blank. This could be a representation of your intellect.

[galt-jw]

Posting pictures of your doggy really shows that you are so very serious.

sorry bout that.

The difference between you and flyer is difficult to divine.

Both of you use straw man argumentation.

At least you have the dignity to appear other than a grade school student who affixes cuddly images of animals to their arguments to impress other subjectivist emotio-cognitive drones.

[galt-jw]

Posting pictures of your doggy really shows that you are so very serious.

Perhaps the next time you could leave the post blank. This could be a representation of your intellect.

This was meant for you, tippy.

You made a doggy! And that without finger paint. Bravo!

[BlackbirdSST]

They need to be held personally responsible. Maybe privately so....No problem from my perspective. At the very least, criminal. Blackbird.

[RJL]

It is strange, isn't it? When the blacks talk about THE VERY SAME THING, many like to ridicule their claims of police brutality.

While I didn't follow the link, I didn't see anything here that suggests that this family was white, black or green.

If it went down as portrayed in the article, it's outrageous period.

[HairOfTheDog]

No silly! These are my cute doggies!

You're hysterical. Call me when you get ahold of yourself.

[galt-jw]

While I didn't follow the link, I didn't see anything here that suggests that this family was white, black or green.

My point is this: Blacks have claimed THIS VERY TYPE OF THING for YEARS. They have been summarily discounted.

I don't know what color they were, either. My point is: WE have heard this before, from the black community. And, many of us have discounted it.

[rollin]

The clock is clicking away~

[galt-jw]

You're hysterical. Call me when you get ahold of yourself.

You are mentally vacant. Call me when you can rent out the vast, unused space that you call your mind.

I wish to use it to breed mongrel dogs.

[optimistically_conservative]

Wow, the lack of intellect is overwhelmingly absent in your post.

A) the doggy pic wasn't her post - so you're factually challenged to start with.

B) Were the humans gunned down, as happens every day, you apparently would side with the cops, after they gave the "official" story, as they always do.

1) There are approximately 740,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States. About 10 percent of them are female.

2) Each year there are approximately 33 million crimes committed in the United States, an average of one crime every two seconds.

3) Crime fighting has taken its toll. Since the first recorded police death in 1794, there have been more than 14,000 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty.

4) A total of 1,533 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the last 10 years, an average of one death every 58 hours or 153 per year. There were 130 police deaths in 1999.

5) On average, more than 65,000 law enforcement officers are assaulted each year and some 23,000 are injured annually.

6) The deadliest year in law enforcement history was 1974 when 268 officers were killed. The deadliest decade was the 1970's when a total of 2,182 officers died, or 218 each year. That figure has dropped dramatically in the 1990's to 152 per year.

7) The deadliest day in law enforcement history was September 11, 2001, when eighty six New York City police officers were killed at the World Trade Center.

8) New York City has lost more officers in the line of duty than any other department, with 526 deaths. California has lost 1,176 officers, more than any other state. The state with the fewest deaths is Vermont, with 15.

Please feel free to post your blank thoughts at your earliest convenience so we can all be impressed with the clarity and equity you approach the reasonableness and abuses of law enforcement.

[LO_IQ]

shooting a peasant's dog is merely SOP

I just called my dog to sit on my lap. I can't imagine someone shooting my dog in cold blood.

This is so sad. No winners here.

[HairOfTheDog]

Good evening Flyer! I think I felt them on my toosh! Can't a girl make a joke to a friend any more?

Funny thing is, we are on the same side of this issue, galt-jw and I. I think this cop is abhorrent.

But apparently, because I have defended other cops in the past, based on my read of those cases, this is my fault.

[Flyer]

Posting pictures of your doggy

The dog in my signuture is just a contrived image.

THIS is my dog!

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Houston Area Texans