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Shooting the messenger: Report on layoffs killed
SFGate.com ^ | Jan. 3, 2003 | David Lazarus

Posted on 01/03/2003 1:29:13 PM PST by madfly

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: wharfrat
thanks for the thoughtful post
41 posted on 01/04/2003 5:28:41 AM PST by madfly
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To: glock rocks
Thanks for the smooch and going easy on me, glock :)
42 posted on 01/04/2003 5:35:58 AM PST by madfly
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To: dark_lord
Last year we hired an H1-B visa applicant for an engineeering position. He was by far the most qualified applicant, and there is a cost attached to the paperwork for the visa, which we negotiated with him in lieu of relocation expenses. ($3600)

The LAC that the poster you rebut noted are bang on. A company is required to follow all these restrictions. We have a LAC file filled with all of these, and they must be constantly updated. I will grant you, that the INS, even when an audit is requested by the employer, don't show up very often, but you must comply, regardless.

FYI, this engineer is the lowest paid in our cadre of engineers, but it is the prevailing wage.

43 posted on 01/04/2003 5:46:34 AM PST by JENINMO
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To: ravingnutter
In short...they have to pay H1B workers the prevailing wage in that area for that position. Anyone that states that these workers are taking jobs from Americans at a lower wage is full of you-know-what.


That is NOT how the program works in reality. At least as described to me by the South Africans and the Mexicans and the Malaysians that I worked with... before all of the US Citizen contract programmers were laid off, that is.

YOU are the one who is full of it.

44 posted on 01/04/2003 6:31:34 AM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: gratefulwharffratt
bump
45 posted on 01/04/2003 7:32:14 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
I find the discontinuation of such an important program hard to understand.

I find it hard to undestand too. I am amazed at the posters who cavalierly dismiss it based on their belief that all government programs are bad.

This program is important because it gives anyone wanting to discuss the state of the nation important,comprehensible data that can be used to buttress analyses that include the fact that if this country doesn't step back and rethink where we have been going for some time now,and make some adjustments,we are doomed.

I would surmise that the program was eliminated so as not to disturb the optimism that is engendered by promoting the idea that you can hold up the market by believing "that thinking can make it so."

Thanks for a good post.

46 posted on 01/04/2003 9:58:29 AM PST by saradippity
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To: WRhine
I do not like to give names as we then have attacks on the author rather than focusing on the thought. He was a "biggie."
47 posted on 01/04/2003 11:26:22 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: madfly
The Socialists in government want to gather this info so they can then publicize it to stoke the flames of class warfare and Anti-capitalism.

Anyone who doesn't want to ever be able to be fired should employ themselves. They certainly shouldn't work for huge corporations.

The last thing we want is economists running our country.

48 posted on 01/04/2003 6:46:33 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ravingnutter
In short...they have to pay H1B workers the prevailing wage in that area for that position. Anyone that states that these workers are taking jobs from Americans at a lower wage is full of you-know-what.

And I'm sure the H1B worker who is paid much less than the prevailing wage will immediately report this grievous injustice to the INS.

Yep. I'm sure he's going to do exactly that. < / sarcasm >

49 posted on 01/06/2003 5:33:03 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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