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Well, the Slimes now equates sharing Christ with the violence perpetrated on three dead missionaries. This is a Slimes hit piece.
1 posted on 12/31/2002 12:53:44 AM PST by twntaipan
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The NYTimes is the house-organ for the Left, always has been. And the Left is nothing more, really, than a religious cult. That is why it hates Christianity -- it's most powerful competitor. Which Islam certainly is not.
44 posted on 12/31/2002 8:16:07 AM PST by WaterDragon
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Thank you for posting this. Yes, it is journalistic swill. Drinkable only by those oblivious to the smell, taste and substance of the internalized and putrid lies of the Left.

We must be careful in the attribution of motives here. Ms. Sachs' hit piece is 'spreading the blame around' as aristeides notes. However, most such newspaper editorializing, passed off as 'news,' does not entirely derive from a premeditated, carefully crafted strategy to promote the agenda of the Left. IT IS THE DEFAULT POSITION OF A PROGRAMMED MIND - SUCH OUTPUT IS ALL THAT CAN COME THROUGH THAT INTERNAL TEMPLATE. The blame spreading is partly intentional, but to a greater extent a picture of her patterning. Some of the operative indentities informing her internal syllogisms are: religious conviction = dumb, unthinking mindset; right wing = evil, close-minded; liberal = caring, accepting, creative, open-minded. She can thus lump all those manifesting a religious conviction together in the same pot. Wahabbi, Baptist, Mennonite....

Sachs is aware of the basic facts of the events, but utterly unable to place them in a larger moral context. If we could sit quietly with her over a glass of Cabernet, she would confess to a 'love of humanity;' an unwillingness to even conceive that one religion might be, well, right; etc. Adrift in a sea of moral relativism, her intellectual ship will not founder until it encounters a reality storm - to wit: 9/11 did succeed in waking a few liberals from their dreams. That said, I have seen some such liberal minds go to their graves without questioning, much less escaping the matrix of such 'thought.'

All of which bodes ill for us. The republic is in deep weeds with this garbage being touted as pate-de-fois-gras. The impact of 9/11 has already faded for most. I cannot imagine the magnitude of the event needed to awaken so many of our intellectual leaders from this slumber.

Blessings on Freepers Everywhere.
45 posted on 12/31/2002 8:22:56 AM PST by esopman
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"In Lebanon, the Roman Catholic diocese and Muslim groups have accused the evangelical Christians of trying to convert Muslims. "

Even Catholics gang up on Christians. How sad.

48 posted on 12/31/2002 9:14:21 AM PST by nmh
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This Catholic wishes his own church were as vigorous in proselytizing the faith in that part of the world as the evanegicals seem to be.
53 posted on 12/31/2002 10:16:43 AM PST by The Iguana
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Under Muslim law, conversion from Islam is punishable by death.

Under God's Law, not converting from Islam (or from any other religion) to Christ is punishable by death,... but the punishment is at His Hand, in His Time, and in His Way, not man's!

55 posted on 12/31/2002 11:14:49 AM PST by Gritty
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I wish the New Yawk Slimes would figure it out that the difference between a Martyr and a Murderer is that Martyrs don't kill people for 'the faith'.
56 posted on 12/31/2002 11:23:30 AM PST by Darksheare
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Careful Susan, your racism is showing!
58 posted on 12/31/2002 12:02:47 PM PST by TheDon
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I was listening to a pastor talking about how the spread of Christianity has been prevalent in muslim countries especially because of NAFTA, and is was one reason that radicals attacked the WTC and why they want to hurt our prospects around the world. They wanted to strike out at our freedom to spread the gospel worldwide which has been made possible the past several years. Many radical muslims have been persecuting Christians in third world countries at a
rate that has surpassed what happened to the Jews under Hitler.
59 posted on 12/31/2002 12:11:00 PM PST by hope
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NYT sees missionaries deserving of death

But of course...
only Christians who are a bit on the right (or further) on the "inerrancy"
or fundamentalist scale are "intolerant".

As far as the NYT staff is concerned, only conservative Christians
are deserving of this sort of character assassination.

All other religions/philosphies/"-isms" are except fromt this sort of censure...
no matter how bankrupt their ideology or how murderous their fruits of their thoughts are...
61 posted on 12/31/2002 12:16:41 PM PST by VOA
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There are three very fine articles with biographies of these martyrs found here.

Martha Myers: a life dedicated to caring for the Yemeni people Note: I wonder if the Slimes hitpiece writer has ever thought of giving away all her savings so that another person could have a life-saving surgery. Dr. Martha did just that recently.

William Koehn 'gave his life ... helping people and serving God'Note: I wonder if the Slimes editors have ever personally helped an indigent person. "Just last week he was giving away basic food -- flour, sugar, things like that -- to some indigent people,"

Kathleen Gariety was committed as a friend & neighbor in YemenNote: I wonder if the Slimes writers and editors have ever thought of anyone other than their selfish arrogant selves. The [Milwaukee]Journal Sentinel reported Dec. 30 that Gariety opted to live in a small apartment among the people of Yemen instead of housing provided on the hospital compound because she wanted to be more of a friend than a foreigner.

68 posted on 12/31/2002 3:57:33 PM PST by twntaipan
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Well, the Slimes now equates sharing Christ with the violence perpetrated on three dead missionaries. This is a Slimes hit piece.

Written by a self- (and no doubt, an Israel-) hating Jewess, no less.

71 posted on 12/31/2002 8:33:45 PM PST by BenR2
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I can't believe all the sheer secterian idiocy on this thread, especially at a point where Islam is openly threatening to exterminate all Christianity.

There are a lot of people on this thread who should be ashamed of themselves. They are a disgrace to Christianity.
74 posted on 12/31/2002 8:49:00 PM PST by denydenydeny
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Victims 'at Home' in Yemen

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

December 31, 2002


Mansfield, Texas - Less than a year from retirement, William Koehn died doing what he felt called to do, running a Baptist hospital and making toys for the needy in Yemen, his son-in-law said yesterday.

The 60-year-old hospital director, who had lived in the Arabian peninsula nation for nearly half his life, was one of three Americans gunned down as they sat in a meeting at the hospital where they worked in the city of Jibla, according to the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board, based in Richmond, Va.

Another of those killed was Dr. Martha Myers, 57, whose father, Ira, said "she loved the people" of Yemen and "felt like that was home."

Ira Myers, 78, retired director of Alabama's Department of Public Health, said that Yemen had been his daughter's home for 24 years. She "had the opportunity to talk to the native women. That would not have been possible for a male doctor in that culture," he said.

"We are concerned for the people who have been getting their care from Martha and the others at the hospital. Now where do they go?" Myers asked.

Purchasing agent Kathleen Gariety, 53, of Wauwatosa, Wis., the third to die in the attack, had been in Yemen for 10 years. Family members said they tried to get her to stay in Wisconsin when she visited this summer.

"I didn't want her to go, but I think what really took her back was the children" there, said her brother, Jerome Gariety Jr. of Colgate, Wis.

Wounded in the attack was pharmacist Donald Caswell, 49, who was in critical condition after surgery to repair a stomach wound. About 40 people gathered for a prayer service yesterday at First Baptist Church of Eustace, southeast of Dallas, where his family used to attend services.

"He fell in love with people in Jibla," said the Rev. Paul McKinney. Caswell has been doing missionary work for a year and a half and he and his wife, Terri, have three children, said his father, D.C. Caswell, 71. "I do hope that he'd come on home now," he said.

Koehn, the hospital director, and his wife, Marty, had been in Yemen since 1975, their son-in-law, Randal Pearce, said at his home in Mansfield, 15 miles from Fort Worth.

"There are always concerns," Pearce said, but "he was there to help people, and he felt safe."
78 posted on 12/31/2002 9:16:09 PM PST by kcvl
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The hospital staff is well accepted in the community. Jibla Baptist Hospital treated 40,000 outpatients, delivered 1,800 babies and cared for 4,750 inpatients in 1995. Because many Yemenis cannot afford hospital care, the hospital provided more than $100,000 in free care and medications for the poor.

80 posted on 12/31/2002 9:17:48 PM PST by kcvl
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As evangelical Christian emissaries have spread throughout the Muslim world, their presence has increasingly proved to be a lightning rod for anti-American sentiment while provoking the anger of native Christian sects and Islamic clerics.

If they really think that's all it takes to "provoke" someone and thereby justify killing, then Howell Raines is a complete sociopath. Raines knows better, but his hatred of Christians is obviously much greater than his love of justice.

81 posted on 12/31/2002 9:26:56 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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So Hindus and Muslims despise conservative Christians. So do gays, liberals, and atheists. That isn't news.
85 posted on 12/31/2002 10:38:45 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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Excuse me, but the clinic where the doctors were murdered had been in existence for 35 years. I don't think that the spread of missions has anything to do with the increased animosity of Muslims. It has more to do with the recent spread of virulent fundamentalist Islam.
88 posted on 12/31/2002 10:57:37 PM PST by Eva
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Under Muslim law, conversion from Islam is punishable by death

That pretty much says it all.

92 posted on 01/01/2003 12:18:10 PM PST by paul51
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Hey, the Muslims hate me as well! Look at this:

http://www.as-sahwah.com/discus/messages/9/3865.html?1041763055

Regards

Jeremy Reynalds
www.joyjunction.org
104 posted on 01/08/2003 9:39:51 AM PST by Jeremy Reynalds
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