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U.S. Bashing No Longer a Game (Robert Fulford outs fellow Canadians.)
The National Post ^ | September 14, 2001 | Robert Fulford

Posted on 12/30/2002 9:16:39 PM PST by quidnunc

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Anti-American Cant a Self-Inflicted Wound

Anti-Americanism in Canada wears a smiling face and considers itself both innocent and morally superior. But it has always seemed to me among the ugliest manifestations of the Canadian spirit, and a self-inflicted wound on our intellectual life. Last week, in the wake of the Sept. 11 atrocities, my readers offered new insights into it.

A piece I wrote for the National Post on Sept. 14, about Canadian anti-Americanism in the new context created by terrorism, attracted more e-mail than anything else I've written. Full of emotion, crammed with usually hidden resentments, these letters taught me several things about a subject I've studied for years.

First, I learned that many Canadians understand and dislike what one of them called "this most debilitating Canadian malaise" but have felt they either couldn't or shouldn't articulate their misgivings. A correspondent told me, "I have waited years to read something like this." I enjoyed the Montreal reader who called me a spoilsport because the heading on my piece said U.S.-bashing is no longer a game — as he wrote, "What other game do Toronto intellectuals know?" Another reader said I was sure to be hated by the Toronto intelligentsia and a third said it was "very brave of you as a member of the arts community to take such stands." That's generous, but inaccurate. We have not yet reached the point where we ostracize each other for our views.

Many Canadians are deeply conflicted on the United States, and in my observation these conflicts lead to an uneasy and almost shameful sense of envy. My acquaintances include hard-hitting anti-American nationalists who preach a powerful keep-out-the-barbarians rhetoric on cultural policy but nevertheless follow with orgasmic fervour the Toronto Blue Jays of the American League. There are journalists who could never have formed their styles without studying American predecessors yet feel they can and should condescend to American culture. A British Columbia man, upset about the lumber dispute, wrote to me that he dislikes Americans because they change the rules when things don't go their way. On the other hand, he and his wife plan in future to spend six months a year in San Diego.

I heard from many Americans living in Canada who understand this subject better than I ever will. They resent reflexive anti-Americanism but believe they should not disclose their feelings, as if to do so would mark them as ungrateful immigrants. Sept. 11 seems to have changed some of them. One wrote: "I have lived, by choice, in Canada since 1993. Frequently, I have felt the need to apologize for being born and raised American. Never again." I've been astonished by the number of Americans who feel they are objects of contempt. In private life, this runs deeper than even I suspected.

An American graduate student in Western Canada wrote to tell me of years spent dealing with anti-American prejudice. Educated Canadians often frame their comments as jokes but make it clear they are not really joking. After Sept. 11, a student asked her: "Don't you really think the Americans had it coming to them?" If her skin were not white, she says, this hostility would be obviously racist. "This week has been a very lonely week for an American in this country." Still, she believes she's not allowed to complain. She didn't want her name or university published.

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Robert Fulford in The National Post, September 22, 2001)
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In recent decades, these distorted feelings about the United States have encouraged us to join their enemies in finding them intransigent or greedy. We have purposely not noticed how easygoing they have been on countless occasions. U.S. diplomats have shown prodigious tolerance for terrorists and have always been anxious to sit down and talk so that even the vilest killers can have one more chance to change into what international opinion calls "moderates." Last week, when Yasser Arafat, of all people, proclaimed himself the enemy of terrorism and gave blood to Americans for a photo opportunity, Americans were still so polite that (as far as I know) not one of them uttered a single bitter laugh in public.

But they are changing, under the influence of Sept. 11. They now find themselves called to a great and risky enterprise. As it happens, we Canadians share most of their values and much of their culture. For those reasons, and our proximity, we should be able to understand them better than anyone else and work with them to frustrate the nihilism being spread by a distorted form of Islam. Instead, we find ourselves limited in our response to the great world conflict of this era. We are at times nervous, cagey, scared, reluctant — and all because of this gaping self-inflicted wound, our thoughtless but pervasive anti-Americanism.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I rag on Canadians, ansd why I shall go on doing so as long as I perceive them to be crypto-enemies of the U.S.

1 posted on 12/30/2002 9:16:39 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
People all over the world feel obliged to feel morally, culturally, intellectually and ethically superior to Americans (as a people), simply because they are not, cannot be and never will be. Their resentment is a manifestation of their profound disappointment with....themselves.
2 posted on 12/30/2002 9:38:31 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: quidnunc
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I rag on Canadians, ansd why I shall go on doing so as long as I perceive them to be crypto-enemies of the U.S.

You need to go buy a tinfoil hat buddy. Canada remains one of our closest allies, a few unfortunate statements notwithstanding. I live in NYC. People all over the country constantly disparage New Yorkers. Some go so far as to say they hate New York. Yet, when is really matters, like on 9/11, we all stand together. Canada did the same. We're family. Like Carrie Fisher said in Austin Powers "we may say we want to kill each other, but we don't really mean it." Thinken up your skin and be glad we don't have France as a northern neighbor.

3 posted on 12/30/2002 9:48:25 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: WaveThatFlag
WaveThatFlag wrote: You need to go buy a tinfoil hat buddy. Canada remains one of our closest allies…

Pfui!

Does President Bush and his administration look upon Chretien and company in the same way as they mighy someting disagreeable on the sole of their shoe because the Canadians are our closest allies?

Canadian politicians play the anti-American card for the same reason that Middle-Eastern satraps do, it sells with the home folks.

4 posted on 12/30/2002 9:57:53 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
FRANCE LITE is still one of our closest allies??? Maybe they should actually put some security into their ports and airports then and stop letting the terrs in.
5 posted on 12/30/2002 10:08:15 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: WaveThatFlag
Canada remains one of our closest allies

With friends like these...

6 posted on 12/30/2002 10:14:30 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Nuke'm Glowing wrote: FRANCE LITE is still one of our closest allies???

If they were one of our closest allies they would be giving us more support.

We don't need their military but we could use their wholehearted diplomatic backing, and I haven't seen any sign of that.

The Canadians aren't our enemies, but they're not our best friends either.

7 posted on 12/30/2002 10:16:13 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Canadian Anti-Americanism is just a form of self-hatred of their inability to establish an identity unique and separate from the US.

Canadians are always with us when the chips are down, because they know who they are, after all the charades are over.

Except for the French-Canadians, the pinheads, who are still losing Waterloo in their nightmares, along with the Frogs.
8 posted on 12/31/2002 3:12:54 AM PST by guitfiddlist
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"Educated Canadians often frame their comments as jokes but make it clear they are not really joking. After Sept. 11, a student asked her: "Don't you really think the Americans had it coming to them?" If her skin were not white, she says, this hostility would be obviously racist."

RACIST??? What an utterly STUPID comment. Just because a comment is demeaning and insulting does NOT make it "racist".

9 posted on 12/31/2002 3:37:14 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: guitfiddlist
The French Canadians actually don't have much love for France. France refused to back them up, and then sold them to England, during/after one of the French/English wars. Since the betrayal, the Qebecois have gone their own way.
10 posted on 12/31/2002 3:46:42 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Racist" is the all-purpose leftist put-down. They call someone a "racist" because they have no rational arguments for their position, and because it ends debate, with their having "won" the argument (in their minds).

"You're a racist! NYAH-NYAH-NAY-NYAH-NYAH"
11 posted on 12/31/2002 4:01:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: quidnunc

I think we should distinguish between eastern and western Canada. It's a little like the distinction between the flyover states and the liberal weenies in Gore territory on both coasts.

My friends in Western Canada think almost as I do about many things, including gun control.
12 posted on 12/31/2002 4:07:55 AM PST by fastdraw
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To: quidnunc
Living close to the border and being able to see some of their stuff on the tele gives you an idea. They like to discuss the US an awful lot and for the greatest part trash us as warmongers, bullies, criminals, arrogant, rude. It's the verbal shots which are really nasty and what is the obsession with it? I haven't been there in 5 yrs. and it's because of how I've realized how disrespectful they are impulsed to be towards my country and I don't respect them for it. They expect us to praise them to high heaven and often seek it in compliments and so many Americans give it, but when you see that-I'm biased against them admittedly now. Obviously, all aren't bad, but there's no doubt they are a very sizeable majority.
13 posted on 12/31/2002 6:02:06 AM PST by bushfamfan
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After living in Canada for twenty years, here is my two cents. Canadians overcome their feelings of being in a smaller, less powerful country than the US by developing an attitude of moral superiority.

As far as being an ally, they really should be considered almost a colony (tongue is in cheek!) They have dissolved their military in order to pay for their vaunted 'universal' health care and generous welfare/unemployment benefits.

Two underreported secrets:

Because private health care is actually illegal, the backup to their failing system is health care in the US.

Any day of the year at least one million Canadians are living or vacationing in the States. (out of a total 28-30 million population)
14 posted on 12/31/2002 6:45:02 AM PST by maica
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To: quidnunc
Robert Fulford bump.

I've actually had lefty friends say to me about his columns,"When did HE become pro-American?", as if to be anti-American was the natural, or base case.
Of course, it is, for the left-wing b*stards who dominate academia and the media.
In my experience,non-trivial anti-Americanism is characteristic of only a small portion of Canadians, certainly less than 15%.
They're also anti-capitalist, anti-development, anti-smoking....

Gee, what country does that remind you of?
16 posted on 12/31/2002 11:10:57 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: TonyRo76
Say, wasn't Waterloo just a couple years after we kicked some @$$ in the Battle of Lake Erie? ;-)

Right around the time we kicked some more at Queenston ,Chateauguay and Chrysler's Farm. :)

btw, When Waterloo was fought, Canada was English, and the French Canadien had long since sworn his allegiance to England. Ever heard of Charles De Salaberry or his Régiment de Voltigeurs Canadiens ? The American army did. Didn't like it much.

17 posted on 12/31/2002 11:29:24 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: WaveThatFlag
Thanks pal, well said. We have enough on our plate right now and do not need this type of infighting. Strengthening the Canadian - American Alliance is the goal of most Canadians, as is demonstrated in these articles.
18 posted on 12/31/2002 11:55:49 AM PST by canuckwest
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To: quidnunc
Yes, but at the end of the day the Canadians don't want us dead because of our religion, and the fact that we don't think women are inferior beings, fit only for posession. The "Middle-Eastern satraps" do.
19 posted on 12/31/2002 11:58:16 AM PST by WaveThatFlag
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WaveThatFlag wrote: Yes, but at the end of the day the Canadians don't want us dead because of our religion, and the fact that we don't think women are inferior beings, fit only for posession. The "Middle-Eastern satraps" do.

And at the end of that very same day a significant number of Canadians, if they are being honest, will offer the opinion that the Islamofascists have other legitimate reasons for wanting us dead.

20 posted on 12/31/2002 12:37:52 PM PST by quidnunc
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