The Neocons & Nixon's Southern Strategy ( Pat Buchanan slams Kristol )

washingtondispatch ^ | 12/29/2002 | Pat Buchanan

[Trickyguy]

Neoconservatives are the useful idiots of the liberal establishment.

And they are just as evil.

[Timmy]

There are lots of "neo-cons" here, if your definition is used. The problem Pat has is not really neo-cons, and it's not really RINOs, either. Krauthammer is very liberal on social issues, but conservative fiscally and on defense. Kristol is not strongly conservative on any issue, as he will roll over on 'bout anything. The problem is semi-liberal Republicans who disdain conservatives who really mean it. That's why Kristol loves McCain, because McCain says the right things but really doesn't mean it. They "flexible", or "pragmatic", whatever it takes to gain and keep power.

[Torie]

Don't tell me you shared his dorm room with Keyes as part of a Platonic menage a tois. I suspect you WON'T tell me that actually. Please ignore this post.

[gcruse]

Undoubtedly. They'll do it in 2002, too.

[gcruse]

Oops. Make that 2004.

[duckln]

When 70+% of blacks believe OJ is not guilty, you know
the problem is not in the facts, it goes much deeper.

[Torie]

He is also very charming.

Btw, I leave Kristol bashing to Miss Marple, and will have no part of it. He has his ups and downs. But I have this irresistible urge to think of the word "unctuous" comes to when I see his picture.

[Torie]

Applying the 11th Commandment here would further Bowdlerize this site. I miss all the folks with whom I agreed on next to nothing.

[Torie]

Russell Kirk observed that what really motivated the neo-cons was not conservative principles or limited government or any kind of American identity, but rather identification with the State of Israel

If Kirk wrote that, it is wrong. It is BS. I am a Barak kind of guy myself.

[Torie]

Do you think I am an "instinctive Marxist?"

[jeremiah]

Ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth. I miss all those guys I disagreed with

[Jhoffa_]

Do you think I am an "instinctive Marxist?"

Only on the weekends and every other tuesday.

Actually, no. I don't think so.. but I am not familiar with your position on allot of matters. I don't take you for a big government junkie though. From what I have seen from you that's certainly not the case.

Just doing research. Like I said before, I am very interested in this and am frankly just working blind. People abuse terms like "monopoly" so often that were it not for the dictionary I would never know what it really means.

(As a side effect & after a little thought.. I now have a whole new appreciation for foreigners trying to learn our language.)

This should be a very simple question (the definition of neo-con) but I am beginning to get the idea that it won't turn out that way.

[iconoclast]

Buchanan is giving him kudos for starting quotas.

A typically irrational and baseless charge so common whenever Pat's involved.

Please highlight/indicate the portion of the article dealing with "quotas". Or is any affirmative action a quota to you?

[iconoclast]

Are you a Kristol type Rhino?

I find him almost as odious as Clinton.

Perhaps more dangerous in the long run.

[iconoclast]

When was Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment abolished?

You obviously regard Kristol as a Republican. I'll take his vote but leave his philosophy, thank you.

And I'd bet you dollars to donuts that he splits his ticket often.

[TLBSHOW]

the message for the blacks in America below

That’s how the Republican Party was founded in the first place because the Whigs didn’t want to take a strong enough position on slavery. They literally wanted to take a pro-choice position—“Oh the new states, they can vote for themselves, decide for themselves”—and the Republican Party said absolutely not.

It was a party founded exclusively to oppose slavery.

Ann Coulter

[Young Rhino]

Are you a Kristol type Rhino?

A Steve Forbes-type Rhino.

As for your reference to Clinton, I find the Patsy knuckle-dragging paleocons to be more dangerous in the long run.

[iconoclast]

Can someone please define "Neo-conservative" for me?

Piece of cake. Their goals are exactly the same as the left wing .... big government solutions. Only headed by Them, the ever so much more enlightened and intelligent ones (almost exclusively drawn from those who have or have had as little to do with the great unwashed as possible, read journalists, writers, think-tank types, almost all former Democrats). And please don't rush out that old Reagan chestnut.

[GOPJ]

Nice tidbit:

In that '66 campaign, Nixon -- who had been thanked personally by Dr. King for his help in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1957 -- endorsed all Republicans, except members of the John Birch Society.

[GOPJ]

Nice tidbit:

In that '66 campaign, Nixon -- who had been thanked personally by Dr. King for his help in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1957 -- endorsed all Republicans, except members of the John Birch Society.