Don Feder Gets Trenchant On The Lott Affair

Don Feder Com ^ | 12/22/02 | Don Feder

[Chancellor Palpatine]

But one group forcibly took it from another, and denied their access to it. Looks to me like its unjust enrichment at the expense of blacks.

[moonhawk]

Lott is the spineless one. Just look at his performance during impeachment, his power sharing with Daschle after the 2000 election, and his BET appearance.

Answer two questions:

1: What has he ever done good for the party?

2: What evidence do you have that he's NOT a racist?

[rdb3]

Yes, I often wondered how anyone could sign on and defend vigorously the BOR during those times..

It flies directly in the face of our Constitution and we weren't truly honoring our Constitution (hell, we weren't even accepting it's words at face value) until these practices were brought to an end.

I couldn't be proud of our document under such circumstances. I don't know how anyone could.

You've stated here what I've said numerous times much to the dismay of many who say that we are losing our freedoms. My question to them was simply, "When was the United States truly a free nation?" Keep in mind that these will quickly point to the era before 1913. To that, all I can do is laugh, then ask "Free for who?"

This is why I'm totally elated that goldstategop said what he did in his second point in his commentary on Feder's article. It was truly a breath of fresh air. Lastly, to me at least, it was like pointing out the obvious.

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[rdb3]

And you'll never get an argument from me on that point. Socialism is slavery for both the slavemaster and the actual slave.

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[rightwing2]

I have always thought HST was the most overrated of presidents. But it has been the Republicans who have helped to strengthen his reputation over the years. Goldwater cited HST as his favorite president even as HST was denouncing Goldwater and speaking out for LBJ and HHH. Reagan often quoted HST. I am unable to recall any Democrats extolling Dewey, though former Senator Paul Simon admitted that he voted for Dewey over HST. And when a Republican legislative leader extols Thurmond on his 100th birthday, all hell breaks loose. Remember, HST scolded Vice President Alben W. Barkley for waving at Thurmond as the 1949 inaugural parade passed the SC governor, standing with the spectators. HST called Thurmond an "SOB."

Indeed, just like with FDR, it is Republican leaders who can be heard seeing the praises of Communist appeasers FDR and Truman. FDR and Truman not only brought us Communist China, Communist North Korea, Communist Vietnam, and Communist Eastern Europe and a superpower Soviet Union, but brought us quite a bit of socialist programs at home whether it was FDR's New Deal or Truman's Fair Deal. Why? Probably just pandering to the socialist Communist appeaser vote which they must think remains strong in America today. Truman scolded Thurmond as an SOB? Well, that goes far to increase Thurmond's reputation in my opinion.

[Republic of Texas]

And that failed. Doing it in reverse will fail as well. It always fails. It always has. No matter how "just" you think it is, it will still fail every time it's tried. Humans have abused each other throughout history, and reversing the roles, while appealing to one's sense of fair play, never works. It just turns another group of people into dependent, resentful people. You can reverse the roles as many times as you like, history provides not one example of where that philosophy works.

[eddie willers]

a true conservative takes responsibility for his actions and recognizes when his living forebears were wrong

I took a black co-worker to lunch.
I paid.
I'm absolved.

[TLBSHOW]

So why is he allowed as a republican senator if he is racist? Maybe we should dump him then, is that what your spewing?

[1rudeboy]

Some tough guy. How many Eastern Europeans did he "repatriate" to the Bolsheviks?

[Republic of Texas]

Read post #53. It helps to follow the whole discussion before you chime in.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I guess we need to just shut down the civil courts, then. No need to right those disputes over contracts, fraud or negligence.

[Republic of Texas]

What does that have to do with transferring wealth from one group to another?

[Jhoffa_]

You're right..

I also think it's why Black Culture as a whole doesn't put much stock in Conservatives or in the Constitution.

They see it as the document that didn't protect them, so why go to the mat for it?

We need to now though, now everyone is equal and further, we are all in the same boat. Nobody is going to drown alone here. That Constitution and the Spirit of Freedom behind it is the only thing that separates us from the third world hell holes we all cringe at on the nightly news.

Imho, we need to move on and concern ourselves with preserving it.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Read my lips - I can identify, with 100% accuracy, those people who were excluded from political and economic life in the South prior to 1964 and are still alive today. I can identify, with 100% accuracy, those governments which enforced segregationist, discriminatory statutes, and can identify, with 100% accuracy, those corporations which were authorized to do business in the South during that period of time, and which supported segregation and Jim Crow.

Wanna see how many interactions we can find between the group of claimants, the governments involved, and the businesses?

Betcha there are quite a few actual, valid claims.

[ImpBill]

Doug Feder, as is his wont, hit the ball outta da park with this article. I find it interesting so far reading the debate is still about Lott and how he either deserved to be dumped or was shafted by his own and mixed in are debates about Harry Truman.

One of the sentences that leapt off the page to me follows:
"In many ways, Lott does indeed represent everything that’s wrong with the Republican Party – lack of purpose, lack of courage, at times, even lack of consciousness ... ",

It is interesting whenever the policies of the GOP are raised for discussion on FR these days, those who are critical of GOP politics are ... in keeping with the Holiday spirit of love and tolerance ... chastised as being DU plants, libertarian loonies, Buchaneers, etc.

While I find the reason for dumping Lott repugnant and two faced, I for one am glad he is gone.

The GOP has an opportunity here to return to an agenda that places fidelity to and enforcement our Constitution through principled leadership. But I would bet they will continue playing the game of pragmatic middle of the road, moderation, rather than "lead".

[Jhoffa_]

But I would bet they will continue playing the game of pragmatic middle of the road, moderation, rather than "lead"

If past experience is any indication, that's a very safe bet.

[moonhawk]

I'm not spewing anything...I've been trying since day one to get Lott supporters to tell me what he's done for the party.

So far, no takers.

Including you.

[TLBSHOW]

It isn't Lott about Lott. Why is it most people get it and you don't.

[Theodore R.]

"I'm just saying that he (Thurmond) would have pursued a far better foreign policy than the disasterous Democrat President Truman." I have a sneaking suspicion that this is exactly what Trent Lott had in mind at that fateful Dec. 5, 2002, birthday party. But Trent got so sidetracked, with people questioning his commitment to "civil rights," that he never clarified what he meant. Instead, Trent went on a foolish, thoughtless "defense" that destroyed his effectiveness. And 87 percent in MS did vote for Thurmond in 1948. MS did not warm to HST then, but now, people there probably "admire" HST for all the wrong reasons.

Thurmond's birthday party will go down in history as important perhaps as the 1830 Jefferson Day birthday dinner in which President Jackson (the smarter politician) and Vice President Calhoun (the more able thinker) began to part ways, but all within the Democrat party. Calhoun later served as secretary of state in the nominally Whig administration of former Democrat John Tyler.

[ImpBill]

Unfortunately we think alike. Not much solace for our troubling times.

I like what you said. One question, however?

You stated, "I also think it's why Black Culture as a whole doesn't put much stock in Conservatives or in the Constitution. They see it as the document that didn't protect them, so why go to the mat for it?"

How many Americans, of all color have a clue what is in the Constitution? How many of the folks in Watts, or Cabrini Green, or Harlem for that matter have a clue about what the Constitution is or what is written therein, much less be willing to support it?

Unfortunately Americans of all stripes and colors today want others, mostly in the form of "government" to take care of their every need rather than the other way around.

Returning to Constitutionally conservative principles, I fear is never going to happen in the Republic. I wish I felt differently, but we have crossed the Rubicon, imho.

Merry Christmas!