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Why vegans were right all along (Monbiot alert)
The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 12/24/2002 | George Monbiot

Posted on 12/23/2002 6:11:10 PM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 12/23/2002 6:11:10 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Mind your own business Vega-Nazi!
2 posted on 12/23/2002 6:12:31 PM PST by Brett66
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To: dighton
Monbiot has all the answers. hehe
3 posted on 12/23/2002 6:14:43 PM PST by Pokey78
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Go for it, that leaves more for me!

4 posted on 12/23/2002 6:15:33 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Pokey78
We are made to eat some meat. Vegetarianism is dangerous and will causes brain damage (I'm not kidding, either). The inane babbblings of this fool author is a case in point.
5 posted on 12/23/2002 6:17:27 PM PST by Trickyguy
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To: Hunble
I have a perfectly clarified beef consomme reducing on the range right now. Snack was venison cubes wrapped in bacon. There is a brisket, which smoked for 4 hours, is now in the oven at about 300F. It will be ready in a few hours. There is a turkey defrosting in the beer fridge.

Needless to say, our family will consume Monbidiot's portion. Merry Christmas.

/john

6 posted on 12/23/2002 6:27:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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7 posted on 12/23/2002 6:28:47 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Within as little as 10 years, the world will be faced with a choice: arable farming either continues to feed the world's animals or it continues to feed the world's people. It cannot do both.

Interesting. I wonder if it will come true. I personally rarely eat beef...I haven't had any in probably 2 months. It is obvious to me though..that people should eat more wheat or oats than meat. We'd be alot healthier..... we are so fat in this country.....most meat is fatty.

8 posted on 12/23/2002 6:29:38 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Pokey78
Hand me that drumstick!

9 posted on 12/23/2002 6:34:25 PM PST by lawdude
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To: Sungirl
No problem Sungirl, I eat lots of pasta with my meat.

Those Italians know how to cook!

10 posted on 12/23/2002 6:36:50 PM PST by Hunble
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To: JRandomFreeper
...beef consomme...venison cubes wrapped in bacon...brisket...turkey defrosting...

You evil barbarian - how can you live with yourself?

Personally I, at the moment, have a large stuffed chicken (wild rice & veggie stuffing) and a nice homemade meatloaf in the oven. And I am currently consuming a huge slice of homemade pizza.

There are various vegetables in the stuffing (including asparagus - try it before you knock it), onions & peppers in the meatloaf, and please disregard the ground beef and pepperoni on the pizza.

So, it's all Semi-Vegan!

Merry Christmas

11 posted on 12/23/2002 6:42:12 PM PST by XLurk
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To: lawdude
EAT MOR CHIKIN!
12 posted on 12/23/2002 6:42:12 PM PST by Tax-chick
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To: Trickyguy
The unhealthiest people I've ever seen were strict religious fundamentalists in Brazil. They even had their own hospital and they needed it big time. They were constantly sick and looked terrible. They did, however, look very slim--just a bit of skin stretched over protruding bones. The females were supremely ugly.
13 posted on 12/23/2002 6:43:04 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Pokey78
The reason that people are starving has NOTHING to do with being rich or poor. In nearly every case, it's directly due to POLITICS, specifically, leftist, statist politics.

Look where there is famine, and you'll find a government that's directly responsible for control of the food supplies. Let's look at North Korea, or Zimbabwae. Look at countries like Sudan or Ethiopia. In both cases, you've got civil wars, and the oppressive governments use food (really the lack, thereof) as a weapon.

No, it's when governments control what you're allowed to eat that starvation occurs. There is more than enough production capabilities for food to feed the world, even us carnivores!

Mark
14 posted on 12/23/2002 6:45:07 PM PST by MarkL
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The unhealthiest people I've ever seen were strict religious fundamentalists in Brazil.

What kind of religion, just so I don't accidentally adopt it?

15 posted on 12/23/2002 6:45:10 PM PST by Tax-chick
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I fear if we all became vegans the world would lack the manure necessary to create this tripe.
16 posted on 12/23/2002 6:49:43 PM PST by Fzob
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I had this guy stand there once and give me a long lecture about how eating any animal protein at all was so unhealthy. As he rambled on, his face had this periodic spasm too great to be called a tic. I noted that his eyes had trouble focusing--they had a bit of a wobble. Well, I was trying very hard to keep a straight face and take him seriously. After all, the muscle twitches could be due to something other than his goofy diet. Then his wife joined us and she had the same twitch. I had to leave before I lost it.

The food pyramid is a ghastly mistake, BUT there is a balance in these things. The ideal balance might be pretty different for each of us. I haven't had time to research it, but supposedly there is a set of diet regimes for weight loss that depend upon blood type. Does anyone know anything about that?

I find I crave red meat about one week per month--nothing else is as satisfying. The rest of the month, tuna casserole and the like do fine.

The writer has too little faith in technology. Raising animals continues to get cheaper. If we can avoid blowing ourselves up, we'll solve the water problem too. No way you can convince me that spraying water across a field is more efficient than filling a trough.
17 posted on 12/23/2002 6:52:50 PM PST by ChemistCat
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Beef cattle appear to be happier animals.

I'm in Texas and we have lots of cows. I've never seen one laugh or heard them tell jokes. Since this article is somewhat about cows and "veggie types" it reminded me of my first wife who never ate "anything with a face". Here is a picture of her:

Nicks first wife. Smiling all the way to the bank....

18 posted on 12/23/2002 6:53:31 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: XLurk
You evil barbarian - how can you live with yourself?

Very well fed, I must admit. grin!

The consomme is actually practice for school. Chef Hughes is tough on how he grades the practical, so I'm practicing before I get to his modules.

It will make for some wonderful french onion soup tomorrow, though, so it won't go to waste.

/john

19 posted on 12/23/2002 6:54:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Pokey78
MEAT! MEAT! MEAT!

Consumption of meat and dairy products is not the reason why so many people in this country are fat. Consumption of crap food is. Meat is good for you. And for anyone worried about whether cattle consume too much corn, water, and range grass per pound of protein created, let me suggest that we all start nibbling on some of the quarter of a million deer running around this area. Deer don't seem to need much in the way of feedlot corn to manufacture a lot of delicious protein.

20 posted on 12/23/2002 6:54:50 PM PST by Capriole
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