Coffee,Tea,or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wifes Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell attheAirport?

lewrockwell.com ^ | 12/18/2002 | Nicholas Monahan

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, it was a different time. Hijackers were rash, but not suicidal. People did think their best chance of survival was to keep their heads down. They would land somewhere, and someone would talk them out of it.

It is different now... and I don't think the answer is to let guns back on planes now, but it is an idea. Heh. My brother said they could solve the problem by handing everyone a baseball bat when we boarded the plane. I do think that we have changed. Planeloads of passengers are no longer docile. They will fight. They still have their hands, and they no longer will have the illusion that they can survive a hijacking otherwise.

I know exactly how I felt when I last boarded a plane, and I counted the big guys on the plane that looked like they could take on anyone who tried anything.

The next guy to hijack a plane in this country is toast. Whether he just wants to go to Cuba or not.

[jd792]

thank you Trent Lott

[HairOfTheDog]

I agree with your premise that the passengers have now changed...

But I don't think we abandon airport security. We do have to make it a little bit hard to get on a plane with a weapon and bad intentions. At least we cull the stupid or unlucky ones.

[Trust but Verify]

If you really think that's all he did, then you didn't read the story very carefully. And what difference would it make to you? You sprained a guy's wrist.

[SwordofTruth]

I personally will never fly again. I'll drive where ever I have to go..

Airlines are filing for bankruptcy left and right and our incompetent government is largely to blame. Soon people will fly nowhere unless it's on a government owned plane.

[fogarty]

Yep, and when we look back on where America died, we will see it started with George W. Bush. "Christian", "Conservative", and "Constitutional" Jorge Bush.

Enough's enough. I'm not flying anymore. And I've already resigned myself to the fact that sometime we will need to take arms against a tyrannical government.

[carenot]

Grrrrrr!

What? How old are you, you whippersnapper?

You are not allowed to growl at me.

[leilani]

Bigger picture? Rational discussion? Glenn, people have been waiting for you to post ONE INTELLIGENT THOUGHT on this board. You have been given abundant opportunities to back up your knee-jerk criticisms with some kind of constructive suggestions, yet you have heretofore refused to do so. That's why no no one can take you seriously.For heavens' sake, it's not OUR fault that you come across as a sexually confused tenth grader.

[Trust but Verify]

If you really think that's all he did, then you didn't read the story very carefully. And what difference would it make to you? You sprained a guy's wrist.

[carenot]

Clicking to your FR homepage does a lot to clarify your attitudes towards people and life.

Your's don't.

[HairOfTheDog]

Excuse me - all he did was ask a question. The simple question of "What did you do to her". This action got him arrested.

That, plus this:

I asked what I could hide in a baseball hat. Yeah. Anything.)...

I began to get pissed off...

My anger increased when...

After some more grumbling on my part they eventually finished...

I marched up to the woman who’d been examining her and shouted, "What did you do to her?"

I demanded to know...

Three of them, cinching my arms...

The whole rest of the piece reeks of general disdain for law enforcement. The guy had disdain for cops and couldn't control his temper. A bad mix for him and his wife. The other side says he was shouting and waving his arms, something about breathing heavy, and he seems to agree in his own writing. I think he was pitching a fit.

[BuckeyeOhio]

Having had two c-sections, I have real problems with his whole statement. His wife was 7-1/2 months pregnant and had a miscarriage before and trouble getting pregnant. I just can't believe a doctor would let her go considering this should be a high risk pregnancy.

Then he states they pull the uterus out - is he crazy - that is NOT a c-section, they only cut the uterus open and PULL out the baby.

Babies flip for no reason at all - emotions have nothing to do with it. My daughter would have been breech but sometime in my 32nd week, she flipped and was head down. I didn't have any emotional scare - she did it on her own. Wouldn't have mattered anyway since this was going to be my second c-section.

He also states that his wife didn't tell him right away what she was crying about. Wonder why? Maybe she knew he would over react and do something stupid.

It is possible security over-reacted but so did he.

[TaZ]

As a bi-Coastal entrepreneur, I have endured the presence of the newly empowered TSA drones and their disrespect for American citizens...especially those of Caucasian ancestry.

I also happen to have an office in the downtown Manhattan, about two blocks from "Ground Zero", as it has been sensationally referred to.

The mindless knee-jerk reaction that has followed 9-11 only typifies the bumbling bureaucracy of government agencies in America that I would expect. The usual increases in fascist police-state tactics, empowering control-freaks whose sole purpose in life is to micro-manage every area of our lives.

Case in point: A couple of months back while on my way to LAX via JFK, I witnessed a 64 year old grandmother being what I could only describe as harassed by airport security types.

After placing her bag through the X-ray machine, security found an antique gold-toothpick in her handbag; a family heirloom passed down through her family from a more noble time in America.

The screeners insisted she surrender her keepsake to them if she wished to enter the terminal, at which she became upset and was asked to step-aside for "further processing". Being slightly irritated by their handling of the grandmother
(a white woman who certainly had no reason to be feared by ANY American citizen), I stepped forward and asked why she was being led away. After I was told to "mind your own business" by a nasty women who spoke broken-English with a Caribbean accent, I asked if it would be possible for this women to return to the ticketing counter to place her heirloom in her luggage.

While the mind-numb screener glared at me, her supervisor thought about it and replied, "If that is satisfactory with her, it sounds OK to me".

The white-haired lady said "yes, it's OK with me" and he released her in the hallway to return to the ticketing/luggage desks. I accompanied her to make sure she was OK.

To make a long story short, the ticketing agent complied with the request and the women was allowed to continue on her trip to see her grandchildren.

IMHO, the whole incident was uncalled for as I don't remember ever hearing of 64 year-old fourth-generation American grandmother being an Islamic terrorist hell-bent on the destruction of anything, have you?

Although Nick Monahan sounds a like another Hollywood liberal new-age kook, he also sounds like a coherent individual who probably isn't prone to violent outbursts. As an American patroit who takes his liberties quite serious, I probably would have done the same or worse in his situation.

Maybe this incident will make him question the morass that has developed from tyrants and anti-patriots that have turned against the Constitution.

There are no atheist or liberals in a foxhole.

OK, I've said my piece...now back to the pissing match.

[AK2KX]

Russia is more free now than America. Kind of ironic dont you think?

Yes, very ironic. I remember reading somewhere where Russia is now the "new frontier", and that they may be actively seeking settlers in the near future. Hell, if this keeps up I'll move.

[Morrigan]

Good thing that woman wasn't married to my husband. If I told him that they had done that to me, someone would have gotten punched. And then things would have been much worse.

However, I wouldn't let a stranger feel my breasts or make me pull up my shirt in public. So I guess things would have been even worse that way, too.

Boy, whatta couple we make, huh? LOL!

[Rifleman]

I suppose that if you are docile enough by nature that being treated as if you were an inmate in a maximum security lockup for the privilage of getting on one of those flying cattle cars doesn't bother you....

These passenger inspections contribute almost nothing to actual security. Cargo, mantanince and catering staff enter aircraft with only a badge and a set of coveralls for id and no individual searches. The purpose of this nonsense is three fold. First the civil "servants" want to be seen to be doing something. The monkey motion makes the more thoughtless and ignorant willing to get on the "safe" airplane. And, as a friend of mine suggested, our masters now know that Americans will jump through even the stupidest of hoops if they are told to.

[HairOfTheDog]

3) It would make those of you who are afraid of those mean evil guns uncomfortable

4) It would work. That alone means it will never happen.

I am not afraid of evil guns, I own several and carry one almost always. However, it has not been in my adult lifetime that they have been allowed on planes, so it does seem like a radical idea. I for one, would be hesitant. A planeload full of people is not a typical self-defense shooting situation, and citizens are not trained to shoot in close proximity to 200 other innocents. This is not the lone bad guy coming in my bedroom. I don't know that a gun, in the hands of just anyone, is the right weapon here.