Posted on 12/21/2002 11:21:49 AM PST by DouglasKC
Nope, that's no good. I just realized that, before the medieval Christian flagellants, there were pagans who had whips. So you can't do that either.
I have also discovered, through my intensive studies, that long before the birth of Christ, pagans were eating food and wearing clothes. I assume you'll want to give up those activities immediately...
I understand your point about not making giving a public act; however, I would not have told the story unless you needed to hear it. I'd like to think that my story might cause you to understand that Christ is Lord of Christmas and every other day.
You probably need to skip the stuff about Nimrod and the Masons and your friends having "visions." Nimrod is dead; Ishtar is a demon; and Jesus Christ is the risen Son of God.
Don't forget breathing -- remember that the picture of Nimrod shows him with a nose.
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However Cristianity is about good will toward all even if they do not agree with you, remember to treat others as you would want them to treat you (it's a lot harder to do than you would think). Present each other with facts and truths and not curses and vilifacations.
You were right.
Da 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
It is impossible to convince those to whom God has not given understanding, because they "Will Not Endure Sound Doctrine." The same companies that sell WWJD buttons and bumper stickers should now be retooling for bulk DOWNLOADS of WNESD replacements. The mockers, scoffers and those who scorn the things of God will not be given understanding.
Ga 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
These are the days of Noah when the wicked did wickedly and "knew not" until the flood took them away. There is currently a flood from Satan's mouth (Rev. 12:15) in the land and a spirit of deception over the land like darkness that can be felt. Lot's sons-in-law mocked and were destroyed. Lot's wife looked back, loving the things of this world and was destroyed. The time to Repent is now! Much worse is to come because the preponderance of people have hardened their heart and lifted themselves up in PRIDE!
Mt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The false prophets have come with their host of false doctrines and deceived MANY. Past tense! Many like Esau are going to be unable to find a place repentance.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they Will Not Endure Sound Doctrine*; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Paul's prophecy in 2 Tim 4:3-4 is now fulfilled in your ears!
I'm not cursing or vilifying anyone. I posted the Word. Those who have no place in them for the Word and who are offended by the Word or who want to twist the Word into what they want it to mean, say I am hateful because their arms are too short to box with G~d. They need to Repent and seek the Light.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Please explain to us how your post in 27 is the Word.
No doubt some days were selected were of convenience (seasons, harvest, etc.) and were made to coincide with with pre-Christian religious holy days. However, for example, many elitist idiots make a big deal by claiming that Easter was derived from a pagan holiday when actually only the name of that day derived from the pagan Easter celebration was used to name the time of remembering the crucifixion and resurrection. And some of the pre-Christian Easter activities were still followed. Then you have the Catholics who have made numerous saints (who gave them the authority to make saints is another discussion) for which days are assigned which have its own local cultural flavour.
I can agree with that. I think God's laws pre-existed Judah and Israel before that. It's goes all the way back to Adam and Eve. :-)
That is certainly true. Thank you for the links.
The bible tells us specifically what to celebrate about and remember about Christ: His death. Not his birth nor his resurrection.
The problem with modern society is that they have abandoned the holy days given by God and created their own. If it were simply a matter of Christmas being a day to celebrate Christ's birth IN ADDITION to observing the biblical holy days it would probably be okay. Chanukah is an example. It was not ordained by God, but was created by Jews in respect of God. Thanksgiving is another one. It was created to give thanks to God.
The problem with Christmas though is deep. It is an example of syncretism:
Syncretism is the process by which elements of one religion are assimilated into another religion resulting in a change in the fundamental tenets or nature of those religions. It is the union of two or more opposite beliefs, so that the synthesized form is a new thing. It is not always a total fusion, but may be a combination of separate segments that remain identifiable compartments. Originally a political term, "syncretism" was used to describe the joining together of rival Greek forces on the Isle of Crete in opposition to a common enemy.
This is what happened to Christianity when it attempted to meld pagan practices with Christianity.
Thank you for the compliment. I love being called a legalist. It means I'm obeying God and that fact is recognized. :-)
4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
To refute this takes too long and I'm too tired. Suffice to say that the greek language isn't referring to God's holy days at all. There are seperate and distinct words used for these that aren't used here.
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