Frist a Major Shareholder in Reputed For-Profit Abortion Provider

Human Events ^ | 12-20-02 | Terry Jeffrey

[tomahawk]

I subscribed to Human Events for over 10 years. I cancelled when TJ took over, because their standards went down.

[Bluntpoint]

"HCA does not trumpet its reported involvement with abortion. But, in April, Catholic Financial Services Corporation (CFSC), a mutual fund company, announced that it was starting an S&P 500 Index Fund that would "exclude companies on the abortion issue"—and that HCA was one of only six companies on the index that would be excluded on these grounds"

This article was writen without any real evidence of anything going on here. Un-returned phone calls do not a case make.

Also, I am suspect of CSFC. I have read elsewhere, they believe the pill to be a form of abortion.
That position is legitimate for them. But I am not sure how many other folks would consider it so.

Please, no mass flamings on why the pill is an abortion enabler. I understand the position, I just don't personally agree with it.

[rightwing2]

Damn, my good friend Terry Jeffry beat me to the punch in exposing Frist's dreadful record on abortion. Excellent article!

Call your Senators today and urge them to support pro-life Trent Lott for re-election as Senate Majority Leader to avert the threat of mushy moderate Bill Frist!

[LibFreeUSA]

PLEASE...unstick your head out of the ground!

[Bluntpoint]

"Trent Lott"

Who is this Trent Lott.

Is he the doppelganger of that jellyfish in the leadership now?

[Fury]

Were the Jews who voted against Hitler also "one-issue" voters?

When Hitler gets brought up in a discussion on FR, you know it's getting a bit dicey.

[ksen]

Just as I oppose islamist-mullah-dictatorships, run by sharia law, I would suppose it should be okay to oppose running the USA under fundamentalist Christian laws, too.

Why are you trying to equate fundamental Islamists with fundamental Christians?

[xzins]

"He said he’s against abortion, period—no exceptions, except rape and incest," said Holden.

This is an attack piece given the current situation.

Two points. (1) The exception for rape/incest is the same position as Ronald Reagan. It is the position of the Republican Party. It doesn't approve of abortion. It simply is a position that says "no legal action" should be taken against people who receive abortions for those reasons. I would add "life of mother" to that list. I don't think those are the best decisions. But, I also don't think "legal action" should be taken against those who receive abortions for those reasons. At the same time, these are rare cases.

(2) Given the above, it only makes sense that one cannot support a law that TOTALLY PROHIBITS abortion, if one desires to keep rape/incest/life of mother decriminalized. The law would have to include the exceptions. I would support a law that prohibited abortion except in those cases.

NEARLY Everyone I've ever talked to says that a woman who has an abortion after a violent rape should be VIEWED differently than a woman who has an abortion just on a whim. I agree with that.

As far as the hospitals are concerned, there's no way that Frist can get away from this since his family owns HCA. Even if he sells his stock, he's still an heir. He can't win.

Remember, he's a heart/lung transplant surgeon. He's not in the gyn area at all.

[nathanbedford]

The Republican party was founded on a single issue.

[Numbers Guy]

When Hitler gets brought up in a discussion on FR, you know it's getting a bit dicey.

This thread is over:

Goodwin's Law of Usenet

Professor Goodwin, U of Illinois, in 1981 made the observation that Usenet discussions gravitate downhill.

He postulated that as the length of a discussion thread grows, the probability approaches one (1) that one participant will introduce the terms "Hitler" or "Nazi".

The custom has evolved that the first party to utter "Hitler" or "Nazi" has lost the discussion, and the thread terminates.

[Bluntpoint]

"When Hitler gets brought up in a discussion on FR, you know it's getting a bit dicey."

Why does everyone always point to the bad stuff Hitler did?

I am sure his mother liked him.

I am sure he giggled and clapped his hands when he won a game of "Candy Land."

Sheesh! We have become such a negative people.

[DandG13]

I agree we need DeLay, but then again so does the House, too bad there's only one of him.

[Bluntpoint]

Professor Goodwin, U of Illinois. Who cares what he said, he was a nazi.

[Fury]

Well, this sucks. I have accounts with Fidelity and Smith Barney.

And the account I have with Fidelity is for my 401(k). What do I do to distance myself from that - quit my job and look for a job that does not use any of these companies for a 401(k) plan administrator?

The "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" indeed.

[erk]

Not the same thing at all. If I own stock in the company and thus profit from abortion, and claim I'm pro-life, and people repeatedly bring it up throughout my career but I don't divest myself, then I think that raises some questions about whether I'm sincere in my stated beliefs.

Let's apply the same logic to you - why are you still a registered Democrat?

From your homepage:
Catholic, pro-life. I'm a registered Democrat (ed., the party of abortion on demand), but I never vote Democratic. Hey, you can't go along with the party on everything!

[Fury]

The Senate needs more fraud experience. HCA is all cleaned up now. Bring him on in Jethro.

And your point is? I thought so.

Is Sen. Frist somehow respoinsible for this? Seems to they replaced the founder of the company who was getting slaphappy with the books.

The sins of the father are relevant, correct?

[Fury]

Agreed! :)

[CholeraJoe]

To make matters even worse, I have definitive proof that Frist carries portraits of slave owners in his wallet as does virtually every Republican senator.

Washington, Jefferson and Jackson owned slaves.