Fed Health Chief: I'll Skip Smallpox Vaccine

NY Post ^ | 12/16/02 | AP

[ApesForEvolution]

Doctors don't know squat about nutrition. They get, what, 4 hours of nutritional education and 1,000,000 in everything else just in case the patient gets ill...from poor nutritional habits that lead to a weak immune system and acidosis.

[ApesForEvolution]

Hola amigo. Quack #3 reporting for duty...LOL!

[FormerLurker]

I was just thinking that it'd be worthwhile repeating part of a post that DBToo had posted;

There is an interesting and all too true quote in the beginning of this book by a J.H. Tilden M.D.:

"It is exceedingly difficult to secure an honest hearing for any criticism of authority. Established beliefs are well nigh invulnerable because they are accorded infallibility by the masses who are educated to believe that they will be damned for thinking, and because of this, few will tolerate opposition of any nature to anything they have been educated to believe. People who have their thinking done for them are always intolerant."

Such DOES appear to be the case here, don't you think?

[ApesForEvolution]

People can do what they want, but doing it blindly like a lemming is sheer insanity.

[FormerLurker]

What's worse is those that are trying to PREVENT people from making an INFORMED decision so that they can truly do what they want..

[ApesForEvolution]

If shouting in the wilderness helps one person it's mission accomplished. Keep up the great work. All they can do is persecute you...with internet posts! LOL!

[Black Agnes]

The bottom line is that children are helpless and that parents have custody of them. Society must require parents to provide children with the necessities of life regardless of their religious beliefs.

Re-read that statement and think of how it will be used when this becomes a non Christian country against Christian children. Not specifically from a vaccination standpoint either. What will you do when 'Society' requires YOU to do something with/to/for your children that is specifically against YOUR religion? Will you chip your kids if 'Society' tells you it's a necessity of life? When 'Society' decides that children under 18 shouldn't be exposed to evangelical religion at all (Like in China for example) will you break the law to take your kids to church? I know quite a few people in the NE that consider religion in general to be a psychiatric disorder and they'd have no trouble passing that sort of law to 'protect the children'. What about that old standby, 'gun safety'? Will you break the law to have guns in your house should your state/country decide that no homes with kids under 18 are allowed to have guns in them?

In the case of many of the 'mandatory' vaccines 'society at large' is really a large lobbyist group connected with the pharma industry. Really. I am retired from the pharma industry and will tell you this firsthand. Mandatory vaccinations are a cash cow for the pharma industry. They pick the public pocket and give the social services offices a means to pry into family life and intimidate parents (especially homeschool parents).

[DBtoo]

Good information and facts!

People really need to read that and think about it. Until a few weeks ago, I wasn't aware of all the symtoms such as food in the intestines rotting because the intestines shut down and then the toxins escaping the body through the skin in the form of those infected, toxic sores. I read too if a person comes down with it that they should stop eating and drink only pure water.

It sounds like a horrible thing to go through.

[FormerLurker]

Until a few weeks ago, I wasn't aware of all the symtoms such as food in the intestines rotting because the intestines shut down and then the toxins escaping the body through the skin in the form of those infected, toxic sores.

Consumption of kefir and/or yogurt are excellent ways to get the digestive system back on track. Kefir is better than yogart in that respect, although a bit harder to find and more expensive.

[dodger]

FH = 'Tin Foil Hat'

[dodger]

That, plus a rabid case of 'baloney-philia' ...

Wheeu, what a raver! That whinging of his to the Admin Moderator takes the cake.

[FormerLurker]

Isn't it interesting that those with nothing intelligent to say and have not posted one bit of factual information are the ones throwing stones and offensive comments? They claim that we are full of it, yet they post not one bit of evidence proving that what we have posted is in error or factually incorrect.

I guess when truth is against them, they have to resort to tactics other than posting facts in order to make themselves appear to be right.

[FormerLurker]

That, plus a rabid case of 'baloney-philia' ...

Are mindless personal attacks your specialty? Do you have ANYTHING to say other than unfounded ad hominem comments?

[dodger]

Gee, and so it continues.

He seems to not even get 'TTFG' (Ta Ta For Good). Nor does he seem aware his is a most outre' view akin to a Flat Earth Society Geologist.

Curious that vim and vigor is so unattuned to the reality of consensus within immunology, pediatrics, public health (and on and on withall, even, horrors, pharmaceutics). Hence we move from the realm of vaccinology directly into psychiatry!

Poignant case, really ... seemingly so intelligent and energetic. Perhaps when he gathers some insight, stays with his course of psychotherapy (+ medication?) AND completes his MD-PhD with a focus on immunogenetics, he may be able to carry on useful discourse.

[FormerLurker]

Do you always talk to yourself when nobody else agrees with you?

[FormerLurker]

Here's an interesting publication that I found relating to the matter at hand..

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THE POISONED NEEDLE
Suppressed Facts About Vaccination
By
Eleanor McBean
1957 
[Whale, June 2002]

PREFACE CHAPTER I THE POISONED NEEDLE WHERE HAVE THE "GREAT STRIDES OF MEDICAL SCIENCE" TAKEN US? THE INSIDE STORY VACCINATION IS BASED ON A FALSE PREMISE VACCINATION LOWERS RESISTANCE AND INVITES DISEASE SUMMARIZING THE CASE AGAINST VACCINATION CHAPTER 2: SMALLPOX DECLINED BEFORE VACCINATION WAS ENFORCED CHART SHOWING DECREASE IN SMALLPOX DEATHS AFTER DECLINE OF VACCINATION STATEMENTS OF HEALTH OFFICIALS REGARDING VACCINATED SMALLPOX UNVACCINATED DISEASES DECLINED FASTER THAN VACCINATED SMALLPOX REPORT FROM BRITISH INDIA WORLD’S WORST RECORD IN MEXICO EVIDENCE FROM ITALY CHART SHOWING INCREASE OF SMALLPOX UNDER COMPULSORY VACCINATION HIGH SMALLPOX RATE IN VACCINATED EGYPT IMMUNIZATION INCREASED DIPHTHERIA IN SOME COUNTRIES IMMUNIZATION INCREASED DIPHTHERIA IN SOME COUNTRIES DECLINE OF VACCINATION IN UNITED STATES CHAPTER 3: VACCINATION HIT BY DOCTORS GOVERNOR HAS SUSPICIONS CHAPTER 4: THE HISTORY OF VACCINATION WHO STARTED VACCINATION AND WHY’ VACCINATION IS NOT SCIENTIFIC INCREASED DEATH-RATE AFTER VACCINATION WAS ESTABLISHED TUBERCULOSIS CAUSED BY VACCINATION VACCINATION IS OF VERY ANCIENT ORIGIN INOCULATION IN AMERICA VACCINATION BASED ON DAIRYMAID’S STORY — NOT SCIENTIFIC VACCINATION DOES NOT IMMUNIZE, SAY AUTHORITIES WHAT HAPPENED TO JENNER’S LIFETIME IMMUNITY? JENNER’S ATTITUDE TOWARD COMPLAINTS AND DISASTER OF VACCINATION ENGLISH GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED JENNER IN HIS VENTURE EVEN JENNER RECOGNIZED THE FAILURE OF VACCINATION RE-VACCINATION DESTROYS PROMISED IMMUNITY JENNER FANS RESENT THE TRUTH RECORDS SHOW RE-VACCINATION FAILS CHAPTER 5: CANCER CAUSED BY VACCINATION PHOTOGRAPHS OF FATAL CANCER CASES CAUSED BY VACCINATION AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY REVEALS STARTLING FACTS DOCTOR FORESEES A NATION OF INVALIDS FAULTY CANCER RESEARCH IMPEDES PROGRESS THE MEDICALLY MADE IRON CURTAIN 90 PER CENT DIE OF MEDICALLY TREATED CANCER CANCER — NO MYSTERY LYMPHATIC INVOLVEMENT IN CANCER DOES DIET HAVE ANY EFFECT ON CANCER? HOW SHALL WE LEARN ABOUT FASTING? WHAT KILLED BERNARR MACFADDEN? WHAT’S WRONG WITH EARLY DIAGNOSIS? CHAPTER 6:  SYPHILIS AND VACCINATION ENCYCLOPEDIA ON VACCINAL SYPHILIS MORE EVIDENCE COMPARISON OF SMALLPOX, COWPOX AND SYPHILIS WHY VACCINATION CANNOT IMMUNIZE AGAINST SMALLPOX CHAPTER 7: OTHER DISEASES CAUSED BY VACCINATION GOVERNMENT REPORTS REVEAL MORE DEATHS FROM VACCINATION THAN FROM SMALLPOX 30,438 SOLDIERS WERE STRICKEN BY VACCINATION DISEASE DEFECTIVE TEETH AND EYESIGHT TRACED TO VACCINATION FOOT AND MOUTH DISEASE CAUSED BY VACCINATION WHAT OTHER AUTHORITIES SAY ABOUT VACCINATION AND DISEASE VACCINATION INCREASES COMMON DISEASES SUCH AS MEASLES INFLUENZA, CHICKEN-POX, MUMPS, SCARLET etc CITY SURVEY BEFORE AND AFTER VACCINATION SHOWS INCREASE IN DISEASE CHART SHOWING INCREASE IN DISEASE BEFORE AND AFTER VACCINATION CAMPAIGN FALSIFIED SMALLPOX REPORTS POST-WAR GERMANY REVEALS TRUTH ABOUT VACCINATION WHAT DOES VACCINATION DO TO THE BODY? VACCINE CANNOT BE MADE SAFE CASE HISTORIES CHAPTER 8: DEATHS FROM VACCINATION FIVE HUNDRED KILLED BY VACCINATION IN FIVE MONTHS IN U. S. SOLDIERS DISABLED AND KILLED BY VACCINATION PHOTOGRAPHS OF VICTIMS OF VACCINATION VACCINATION DEATHS NOT REPORTED VACCINATION DEATHS IN COLORADOCHAPTER 7: OTHER DISEASES CAUSED BY VACCINATION GOVERNMENT REPORTS REVEAL MORE DEATHS FROM VACCINATION THAN FROM SMALLPOX 30,438 SOLDIERS WERE STRICKEN BY VACCINATION DISEASE DEFECTIVE TEETH AND EYESIGHT TRACED TO VACCINATION FOOT AND MOUTH DISEASE CAUSED BY VACCINATION WHAT OTHER AUTHORITIES SAY ABOUT VACCINATION AND DISEASE VACCINATION INCREASES COMMON DISEASES SUCH AS MEASLES INFLUENZA, CHICKEN-POX, MUMPS, SCARLET FEVER, ETC CITY SURVEY BEFORE AND AFTER VACCINATION SHOWS INCREASE IN DISEASE CHART SHOWING INCREASE IN DISEASE BEFORE AND AFTER VACCINATION CAMPAIGN FALSIFIED SMALLPOX REPORTS POST-WAR GERMANY REVEALS TRUTH ABOUT VACCINATION WHAT DOES VACCINATION DO TO THE BODY? VACCINE CANNOT BE MADE SAFE CASE HISTORIES

CHAPTER 9: MEDICAL INTERFERENCE A PLANNED MEDICAL CONSPIRACY CONTRACTS TO DEFRAUD THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE MEDICAL MONOPOLY HOW THE HIGH PRESSURE MEDICAL LOBBYING INFLUENCES LEGISLATION WHO HAS THE MONOPOLY ON WORDS? MORE FREEDOM DENIED SUPREME COURT ESTABLISHED A PRECEDENT HEALTH BOOKS ATTACKED BY MEDICAL TRUST GANGSTERS IN THE GOVERNMENT HEALTH RESEARCH ATTACKED BY MEDICAL-TRUST WHERE CRIME PAYS CHAPTER 10: THE HIDDEN DANGERS IN POLIO VACCINE SAFETY PROMISED WITHOUT INVESTIGATION OR PROOF BRITISH PAPERS WARN AGAINST SALK VACCINE HOW SAFE IS SAFE? SALK "SPEAKS UP" IN LIFE MAGAZINE SOME COUNTRIES REJECT VACCINES ALL VACCINES CAN CAUSE POLIO POLIO FROM VACCINATION IN OTHER COUNTRIES POLIO NOT CAUSED BY LIVING VIRUS WHAT IS A VIRUS? CONFUSION IN THE RANKS OF THE GERM BREEDERS MONKEY TESTS ARE NO MEASURE FOR MAN WHAT DOES THE "SALK" IMMUNITY MEAN? ARE DR. SALK’S FIGURES ON EFFECTIVENESS ACCURATE? OTHER CAUSES OF POLIO POISONS IN COLA DRINKS POLIO AND PREGNANCY SUICIDE DIET SERVED TO HOSPITAL PATIENTS ARE PHYSICIANS ON THE "COLA" PAY ROLL? SIMILARITY OF POLIO TO PELLAGRA, BERIBERI AND OTHER DEFICIENCY DISEASES COMMON POISONS THAT CAUSE POLIO FOUR POISONS IN WHITE BREAD THE HIGH INCIDENCE OF POLIO AMONG OUR SOLDIERS FAILURE MECHANISMS IN THE POLIO BUSINESS THE GROWING SKEPTICISM OF THE SALK VACCINE DOCTORS SQUABBLE FOR THE "LION’S SHARE" WHAT HAPPENS TO THE "MARCH OF DIMES"? WHO CAN CURE POLIO? WHAT CAUSES EPIDEMICS? BIBLIOGRAPHY ADDENDUM VACCINATION—A MEDICAL DELUSION By Rex U. Lloyd AMERICAN CAPSULE NEWS (Morris Bealle) (Oct. 15, 1955) REPORT ON SALK VACCINE SALK FACTS January 14, 1956—CHILDSLAUGHTER, INC January 21, 1956 THE SALK STORY IN DOLLARS January 28, 1956 POLIO’S PREVENTION AND CURE February 4, 1956—THE ROMANCE OF FLUORIDES (No. 1) February 11, 1956.ROMANCE OF FLUORIDES (No. 2) February 18, 1956. ROMANCE OF FLUORIDES (No. 3) THERE HAVE BEEN NO TAKERS February 25, 1956. November 1, 1955 THE $ SIGN BEHIND SALK VACCINE November 16, 1955. WHY THE SALK CONCOCTION FAILED MEDICAL ECONOMICS December 16, 1955 VACCINE FRONT February 11, 1956. HORNSWOGGLE, Inc. "POLIO GROPINGS" By T. M. Schippell, N. D. "LET US FACE THE FACTS" By T. M. Schippell, N. D. "NEW ENGLAND AND SALK’S OFFAL" By T. M. Schippell, N. D. SERUMS AND POLIO By Herbert M. Shelton, N.D. (1951) THE CRIME AT HOUSTON---DR. SHELTON,  MAY, 1955 BEWARE OF THE POLIO VACCINE--- DR. SHELTON, SEPT 1955 SALK VACCINE--MILESTONE OR MILLSTONE By Therese Gay Aug 1955 A MAN’S OPINION IS NO BETTER THAN HIS INFORMATION AN OPEN LETTER TO DR. LEROY E. BURNEY: Rabies Past Present in Scientific Review---Millicent Morden "THE SALK MONKEY KIDNEY JUICE"----Dr. T. M. Schippell, N.D.June, 1956 Letter from Dr. Milton Fried, D. C., Letter from mother whose child was killed by salk vaccine Nashville Banner, June 13, 1959 A FATHER ASKS: "ARE WE GUINEA PIGS?" TENNESSEE IS TO HAVE ANOTHER MONKEY TRIAL ONLY THIS TIME IT’S OVER MONKEY JUICE BEN GAMBLE, Edenwold Road, Nashville, Tenn. THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY Letter to Judge Homer B. Weimar from Duon Miller, 1959 The Nashville Banner, Thurs., July 9, 1959 SALK SHOTS BLAMED BY POLIO VICTIM’S FATHER Address by Miss Lily Loat January, 1927. LETTER TO GOVERNOR KNIGHT from E McBean 1956 VACCINE ECONOMICS — as quoted by AMERICAN CAPSULE NEWS, Washington, D. C. February 9, 1957. "WHAT FOOLS THESE MORTALS BE" By Dr. T. M. Schippell, N. D. THE POLIO MUDDLE---THE NATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION BULLETIN 1959

The purpose of this volume is to provide a working reference of various statements regarding vaccination and not to offer a "cure" of any specific disease in any specific individual.

Preconceived opinions regarding vaccination will not be changed overnight nor by the reading of a single book. Herein are the opinions of many great scientists and doctors (of many schools). Many have spent a life-time of research—of trial and error before making their statements. The reader has the privilege to accept or to reject the statements after due deliberation.

Thus we feel this volume should not be considered a dangerous book for the layman but a thought-provoking treatise.

The Publisher.

PREFACE

For the past 2000 years physicians have been looking in the wrong direction for the cure of disease. Their worse than useless practice of killing germs with poison drugs has never — and can never — solve the problem of disease.

During the Dark Ages, before the introduction of improved nutrition and sanitation, the world was intermittently visited with epidemics of smallpox. The cause was stubbornly ignored and the seeds for more disease were sown when vaccination was brought into popular use. This infusion of poison injected into the blood stream of the masses only served to intensify the disease in some cases, suppress the symptoms in others and create new and more serious diseases in still others. So, with the passing of years we have seen this misbegotten child of ignorance grow into a Frankenstein monster of immense proportions that moves relentlessly forward, grinding under foot the multitudes that throng its path.

Through the lethal power of this poisoned needle, the simple zymotic (contagious) diseases of the past have been devolved into the horrors of the present — our terrifying and expanding crop of "killer diseases". Many of these strange "mystery diseases" that baffle the entire medical world, are the sordid products of vaccine poisons that disturb the chemical balance of the body and interfere with normal functioning.

All these medically-made atrocities are far worse than smallpox or any of the other eruptive diseases that nature provides as a means of expelling the accumulated poison waste from the abused body. This interference with the balanced economy of nature has multiplied the problems beyond the power of science to control.

Our worst epidemics now are epidemics of vaccination in which more people are killed every year by "vaccinal diseases" than by the diseases that the vaccinations were supposed to combat.

Complete freedom from disease can scarcely be found except in remote islands or isolated communities that have not been invaded by medical mischief and commercialized products. Is our proud civilization to be degraded, corrupted, and destroyed by its own inventions designed for selfish profit and exploitation of the race?

Vaccination, instead of being the promised blessing to the world, has proved to be a curse of such sweeping devastation that it has caused more death and disease than war, pestilence, and plague combined. There is no scourge (with the possible exception of atomic radiation) that is more destructive to our nation’s health than this monument of human deception — this slayer of the innocent —this crippler of body and brain — THE POISONED NEEDLE.

Eleanor McBean

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[2sheep]

>I guess when truth is against them, they have to resort to tactics...

You are right.  America is supposedly a free country which has rights guaranteed by the Constitution.  This  whole matter should involve CHOICE.  The fact that some news articles in the past year have talked of driving people into stadiums and giving them shots by FORCE should be of genuine concern.  The Jew were FORCED into boxcars and taken for a "shower."  Everyone should be wiser now but I suspect too many are dumbed down by the Marxist media's propaganda machine.

[FormerLurker]

One of my concerns is that from the historical evidence, it appears that the vaccine actually CAUSES smallpox. Once enough are "vaccinated", there WILL be outbreaks of smallpox, thus they will claim there is a smallpox bioattack and then FORCE the remainder of the population to submit to it. That is where it will get ugly...

Another concern I have is that as the vaccine DOES make one MUCH more susceptable to the disease, our troops will be sitting ducks for any REAL bioattack launched upon them..

[DAnconia55]

This is getting silly.
End of discussion with you.

Does that mean you have no evidence to back your assertions?

[dodger]

Are mindless personal attacks your specialty? Do you have ANYTHING to say other than unfounded ad hominem comments?