Cheaper Labor Drawing High-Skilled Tech Jobs from U.S.

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[Texas_Jarhead]

"Dell says it didn't export many jobs directly to India, with the exception of "a small number" of online tech-support positions, said spokeswoman Cathie Hargett. Most of the jobs in India were tech-support positions that Dell used to contract out to companies in the United States, she said."

Oh I see. So it was only Americans indirectly employed by Dell that were affected. I also disagree with that quote from Dell VP saying that Indians do a better job. Too bad he didn't qualify and/or quantify that remark.

[stylin19a]

Cigna Ins. is outsourcing their entire IS operation to India.
It should be complete by 9/03. The goofy thing is, I was reading an article that Indian rug makers/weavers are pissed off, cause THEIR jobs are going to China and elsewhere.

[lelio]

US goverment still write contracts with companies that move work overseas
You have to strike a fine balance there or else you'll get some fat and lazy companies in the US. But I agree with your major point: the US should work towards trying to benefit its own citizens, and not just shell corporations.
One example is Airbus wanting to get in on Pentagon contracts. Hopefully someone will nip that one right in the bud: how can Boeing compete with a company subsidized by the EU? Likewise how can American manufacturing companies compete against forced labor in China?

[Poohbah]

I'd say inflated real estate prices are a major factor in the NEED for fairly high paying jobs, as nobody can afford to pay rent and subsist on minimum wage..

This causes real estate prices to be inflated beyond all reason. Remember, your answer must be phrased in the form of a question.

(Cue Final Jeopardy theme)

[nanny]

You need to worry about WHO will be making all the replacment parts for our military..now that is a real issue

Oh, of course I do. But I was speaking in the context of the outsourcing of jobs for more or less 'customer service' to foreign countries.

The damage that can be done making anything for our military is frightening. As I said, though, I was reponding to how much economic damage could be done to us by just 'custome service' reps.

[anobjectivist]

That's a point I was trying to make.

[FormerLurker]

This causes real estate prices to be inflated beyond all reason. Remember, your answer must be phrased in the form of a question.

Real estate prices skyrocketed into the stratosphere back in the 80's, with NO corresponding major increase in wages..

[Poohbah]

Manufacturing for the American military is one of those areas that is fenced-off for American firms.

The real problem is that the innovation is going to be done outside America.

Thank you, radical environmentalists, minimum-wage advocates, and tax-and-spend liberals. Your efforts to denigrate the productive and elevate the non-productive have borne fruit.

[anobjectivist]

Bingo

[Poohbah]

You (a) didn't identify what made real estate prices skyrocket (incidentally, a clue as to what made it happen can be found by looking at real estate prices across the country--they did not skyrocket everywhere, nor did those that actually did jump that much they go up at the same time), and (b) you didn't express it in the form of a question.

Sorry, you don't get a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat! But that's not all! You've also brought shame and disgrace on your family's name for generations to come. You don't get invited back tomorrow. You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game! You're a complete losr!

[Karsus]

What about the execs that move jobs overseas so they only have to pay $500.00 USD per month? Don't they get some share of the blame?

[Poohbah]

Eventually, the Gods of the Copybook Headings will crawl out from under the rubble.

[Karsus]

So if we get rid of the min-wage suddenly we will be able to live on 3.00 USD per day?

[Poohbah]

What about the execs that move jobs overseas so they only have to pay $500.00 USD per month? Don't they get some share of the blame?

Why should they be forced to pay so much more in America, for the same quality of work?

The minimum wage has a very nasty side effect--it sets a minimum value on labor. Labor that cannot generate that value becomes absolutely worthless in the United States.

[RnMomof7]

ask the street people...remember they have a caste system so these are upper caste and educated for $3.00....

[RightWhale]

There was a Brain Drain following WW II up to sometime in the 90s. About the time X-42 took office. The Brain Drain was in favor of the US. But with manufacturing jobs moving offshore, the supporting tech moves offshore as well. Brain Drain is underway in the other direction. Already American scientists are publishing a smaller percentage of scientific papers, getting down toward 1/2 the total. No end in sight. We're looking at the trend to the end of American pre-eminence in tech, in space, in economic dominance. The tech dominance is the only reason America is a superpower, and it's going away. It's not over yet, but American dominance will begin to fade at some point, and since these trends take decades, the trend won't be easily or quickly reversed.

Small wonder students are studying business and law and education [the service sector] rather than engineering, medicine, and science. It's over.

[Poohbah]

We need to get rid of the welfare state and the minimum wage.

When you pay people to be idle, they will be more idle.

[anobjectivist]

No, the problem is far more deep rooted than that, and I'm sorry if I'm giving the impression that JUST by getting rid of minimum wage everything will be affordable. There are many, many issues that are not that obvious. For instance, a quick glance at the official white house budget reveals that 49% of the net income for the farming industry is from government subsidy. Also, another glance shows that education spending is increasing while reading levels are remaining stagnant. Both are indicators of socialist monopolies/failures. Correcting the market could take years/decades, and lots of planning to make sure it doesn't result in a depression.

[Poohbah]

Small wonder students are studying business and law and education [the service sector] rather than engineering, medicine, and science.

There's a reason that so many want to become lawyers--we've created a legal system where's far better to be a jackal looting from the productive than to actually be productive.