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Bill Offers Protection For Students Raised Here
San Diego.com ^ | December 15, 2002 | Leonel Sanchez

Posted on 12/15/2002 10:28:30 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

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1 posted on 12/15/2002 10:28:30 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Public opinion over immigration remains sharply divided.

Could have fooled me. Last time I saw the polls 80% of the public want our borders closed and illegals deported. Maybe this writer is looking at a poll I haven't seen.

2 posted on 12/15/2002 10:29:01 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
This writer polled his office Christmas party and found out what the do-gooder bleeding heart opinion was. He thinks the rest of us feel the same because he doesn't get out much. Deport the illegals now.
4 posted on 12/15/2002 10:34:18 AM PST by Birdwatcher
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To: BrowningBAR
We all need to call Congress and tell them what we think of the "Dream Act", otherwise they will never stop with these amnesties.
5 posted on 12/15/2002 10:34:25 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
But he had to withdraw after a few weeks, because he couldn't scrape together the money for his tuition.

it's one thing if he can pay for his education himself; it's quite another to ask taxpayers to pay it for him. a lot of deserving kids pay full price for college; these are not children of "privilege," but hard-working persons who work long hours to pay for schooling.

they, too, were "deserving." i don't believe in denying opportunity, but i am sick and tired of paying for everybody else's "mistakes."

6 posted on 12/15/2002 10:39:11 AM PST by wildwood
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To: *immigrant_list
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7 posted on 12/15/2002 10:49:56 AM PST by The Obstinate Insomniac
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To: wildwood
This is the entire bottom line. Some of these stories may be heart-rending, but so are the actual cases of citizens who struggle to put their own kids through college working jobs for which the wages have been bid down by an influx of undocumented workers and the ever present threat of companies to export them to China.

We should save our sympathies and tax dollars for those who are here legally first, then try to help those like minors in the middle.

The other argument is that a bright, young Mexican national, fluent in English, familiar with American customs, ought to be able to do a lot of good for Mexico in boosting export earnings to the U.S. Why can't he? Could it be because El Presidente Fox is more interested in preserving the oligarchial status quo than in developing the middle class which Mexico needs to emerge from the third world?

Therefore, the U.S. should push their own citizens aside to make room for Mexicans too educated to be content with being a peasant in their society, but not properly pedigreed enough to become part of the ruling oligarchy, right?

8 posted on 12/15/2002 10:54:00 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Its supporters are optimistic the bill will become law, because it has influential sponsors on both sides of the aisle..

..and a certain signature awaiting in La Casa Blanca.

9 posted on 12/15/2002 11:01:40 AM PST by dagnabbit
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To: madfly
ping
10 posted on 12/15/2002 11:08:19 AM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
This country is well on it's way to ruin. Our elected officials conspire to reward some who flaunt our laws. At the same time they are trying to figure out ways to make lawbreakers out of more of the law abiding citizens. They must feel that this is better than trying to do the job that they should be doing.
11 posted on 12/15/2002 11:08:54 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; madfly
Though he could earn a college degree, Leyva can't legally work in the United States. He isn't eligible to receive federal financial aid either.
A bipartisan bill making its way through Congress could change that.

If he wants to work here he needs to get in line for citizenship or a legal visa..I would dare suggest that there is NO medical care in Mexico to speak of.. he needs to go home and be a doctor...

12 posted on 12/15/2002 11:11:31 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: BrowningBAR
BTTT
13 posted on 12/15/2002 11:12:32 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: FreePaul
Our elected officials conspire to reward some who flaunt our laws.

I cannot stand to watch the leaders of this great country sell it out. As far as I'm concerned, Orin Hatch is just as big a jerk as Ted Kennedy. They're two peas in a pod.

14 posted on 12/15/2002 11:13:56 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: RnMomof7
.. he needs to go home and be a doctor...

Mexico is exporting their doctors here because we don't have enough to treat the millions of their illegal aliens.

The house burns and the "solution" of Congress is to throw more gasoline on it.

15 posted on 12/15/2002 11:27:48 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I did a medical mission there ..trust me there are no doctors there
16 posted on 12/15/2002 11:32:37 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Don't they even have a few hospitals? I read where we were building (at our expense) a hospital south of the border Mexicans could use instead of transporting them up here.

That might be a good place for this aspiring illegal alien doctor to begin his practice.

17 posted on 12/15/2002 11:42:41 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The "average " Mexican can not afford medical care..many drugs are over the counter for them to care for themselves..they see with the druggists when they are sick

I saw sick kids and old folks and LOTS of high blood pressure and they can not afford doctors or meds..

I ate in the homes of these working middle class...worse than the worst slums in this country..all that Nafta money is in the pockets of the rich and the drug dealers..

18 posted on 12/15/2002 11:52:15 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Vigilanteman
Some of these stories may be heart-rending,

You're correct. They are stories, and they are constructed to be heartrending.

There are limitless options for kids who have (by the very definition of this proposed law) a decent American education and some sense of American values. But those options don't have to include living in America or the usurping of American law.

I agree with you that they have options in Mexico or Poland or wherever their home countries happen to be.

And if they can find a way to get into American legally, and that's what they want to do, I'm sure they can find a way to do it.

Heck, if I decided that I wanted to live in Australia, I'd go about the business of making myself suitable for Australian emigration. I wouldn't blast the Australian government and newspapers with letters about changing their laws.

Least convincing of all is the sobbing or Orin Hatch.

19 posted on 12/15/2002 12:04:38 PM PST by angkor
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