Former Israeli PM: We're in a World War, Many civilians may die, but we have to win

Projo.com ^ | 12/11/2002 | KAREN LEE ZINER

[liberallarry]

...this traitorous scumbag
This man is an appeasing coward

Barak is the most decorated soldier in the Israeli army. What qualifications do you have that give you the right to make statements like that about him?

[monkeyshine]

And it was a crude nuclear device," he noted, "that destroyed Nagasaki."

Excellent point.

[montag813]

Barak is the most decorated soldier in the Israeli army. What qualifications do you have that give you the right to make statements like that about him?

Who cares how decorated he is? That excuses his disgraceful Camp David appeasement? Medals on the battlefield do not represent an ability to evaluate Israeli National Security. Also, Sharon may be less "decorated", but was involved in battles which were far critical to Israel. Sharon's tank tactics from 1967 are studied to this day in the U.S. Army War College, as well as many other nations.

In addition he is committed to defending Israel, unlike Barak, who's naivitee (as well as Rabin's and Peres') represented a mortal threat to Israel's exisitence. Rabin was also a decorated soldier and also Army Chief of Staff. I believe the Marxist who is now running for Prime Minister from the Labor party was also a General. Israel has an unfortunate history of hawkish Generals who lose their balls when they get into politics. Thankfully for the Israeli people, Sharon is immune from this disease.

[jabotinsky]

Barak the bolshevik whore who ran israel gave away the store, he was /is willing to surrender the temple mount,jerusalem, you name it to plo nazis for what?
a piece of wortheless paper?
are u kiddin me?

ANYONE is qualified to rip barak a new one for the insanity he was waging against israel's existential well being.
luckily for the jews, there is someone more f'ed up than barak running the enemy's show. yep 'Chairman' arafart himself.
sharon is just a babysitter, wait till the real right wing takes over in israel. its gonna be real pretty like.
KAHANE WAS RIGHT.

[swarthyguy]

Good - Great of Barak.

He went along with the Clinton sponsored scheme, against what his gut told him all along... but to make peace you have to take a chance like Begin did.

Then Arafat slapped him back and started a jihad that intensified after the Attacks on America.

Barak rues the day that he sat down with Arafat. This demonstrates the steadfastness of the Israelis and how much the Palis have lost in terms of their credibility, such as it was....

[CARepubGal]

Don't hold back now. Tell us what you really think. The klintoon stooge wised up IMHO.

[liberallarry]

You bear the name of the man best described as the father of his country.

Too bad you're so unworthy of it.

[liberallarry]

You can criticize his politics without impugning his courage or his loyalty. But you seem to be too stupid to know that.

[montag813]

You can criticize his politics without impugning his courage or his loyalty. But you seem to be too stupid to know that.

But I am not criticizing his politics. I AM questioning his courage AND his loyalty. Rabin was a traitor, period. He brought back Arafat, armed him, and has the blood of hundreds of Israelis on his hands. His death was justified.

Barak, with Peres, tried to complete the process of surrender to the Arab Nazis. Even Mrs. Rabin, a far-left radical, said that her husband would "never have divided Jerusalem" and given half to Arafat. Yet Barak offered this and much much more. He was a coward, a traitor and a pucilanimous worm. He should be shunned and his opinions never again heeded.

Thankfully Sharon is committed to defending Israel, unlike Barak.

[montag813]

Don't hold back now. Tell us what you really think. The klintoon stooge wised up IMHO.

"Wised up"? He offered to divide Jerusalem, which was never before even comptempated, as well as eviserate Israeli security. Just imagine if Arafat had said "yes". Horror of horrors. Barak is a proven traitor, and should be treated as a pariah until his death.

[Austin Willard Wright]

This man is trying to draw American blood and tax resources into his war. Israel's fight is Israel's fight.

[liberallarry]

To lead men in battle takes great courage and great loyalty. It's a job that's much, much harder to obtain than ditch-digger or street-sweeper. To do it with distinction - especially in a country like Israel - is even more difficult.

I think the state of Israel and Barak's peers in it's army are far better judges of his qualities than an intolerant, vulgar, low-life such as you. I also think you've no idea what real political differences over life and death issues are all about and how they should be handled in a democratic system.

[jabotinsky]

liberal larry

oh how sweet liberal larry finds me unworthy of a login name such as Jabotinsky.

got news for you larry, any Jew since Jabotinsky (ZT'l) is unworthy compared to this giant. Jabotionsky did more in his 59 years alive than most of his zionist contemporarys put together.

now whats this bs about me? whatasa mattah? too blind to admit that libs like you nearly destroyed israel? too hurtful to admit that you were too stupidn to see through the plo nazi propaganda. dont worry larry! for every self hating traitourous lib like you, there are ten 'fanatics' like me who will gaurd against perfidious bastards like rabin, perez, sarid, beilin (YSZC).

Like shlomo ben yosef said as the nazi brit bastards hung him..."I die with the name Jabotinsky on my lips"
am yisrael chai...and oh yeah KAHANE WAS RIGHT.

[liberallarry]

for every self hating traitourous lib like you

You don't know anything about me. This exchange is about your vulgar, stupid, mis-characterization of Barak

got news for you larry

You don't have news for anyone. How could you - devoid as you are of character, taste, intelligence, civility, humanity? You're probably some sort of rodent with rabies.

[jabotinsky]

woof woof larry the liberal fool.

kishmeatuchusaran. when 'rodents' like me liberate Israel from filth lemmimngs like you, you will be vomited out of the land and people of israel

subhuman drek.

[liberallarry]

When I saw the screenname Jabotinsky I hoped for Boris Shusteff.
I got Archie Bunker.

[jabotinsky]

Oh AARCHIE,

hey larry...I sense you are a tadbit dismayed at our interaction.

first things first, I enjoy the chaos and shi'343T talking as much as anyone so when I get into it w/someone, I have a hard time lettin go, I enjoy it too much.

so here is the truth, the reason I tend to use a bit of strong language :) when reffeering to libs and socialists is not personal, I could care less about the people themselves.
whatI do careabout and what incenses me is when libs and socialists especially in Israel do so much damage to their countrys that people are slaughtered on their own streets.
That inflames me.

call me archie, attila or whatever you desire, I still will listen to you afterwards, but if you choose to defend people who have Jewish blood on their hand, even if they are the most decorated blah blah, I will call you on it.

peace in the middle east? MOTHAFU&^AH pleaz.

Likud 44, Labor 18, Herut 9 oh let it be.

[liberallarry]

I like witty shit - I had a good shot planned for our next round.
I admire Jabotinsky. I admire Shusteff.
I don't think peace with the Palestinians is possible so I'd like to see a greater Israel. I hope that it happens as a consequence of the war with Iraq.
Probably we agree on all this (so be careful about drawing conclusions from screen names instead of doing so from previous posts)

BUT

I strongly disagree on characterizing the political opposition the way you do - especially when referring to people like Rabin, Barak, and Mitzna, men who have served their country for a long time and with great distinction. If you value democracy and decent people, change your ways.

[liberallarry]

Here's an example of what I'm getting at

Charting a surer path to peace: If Israel escalates war against militant Islam, US should support it

Posts #3,4,10,11. Ask yourself how many ancient Buddhas have to be destroyed before people realize the evil nature of unrestrained partisan passions.

Jabotinsky, alone among the early Zionists, recognized the justice of the Arab cause and thus knew they would fight for it as all decent people would - and could not be bought off as the socialists thought. He alone recognized the humanity of his opponents.

Many people are afraid this conflict will cause our people to descend to the Arab cultural level. We shouldn't let that happen.