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William F Buckly Jr. And The John Birch Society- A Book Review
News Max ^ | Dec. 13, 2002 | Miguel A. Faria Jr. M.D.

Posted on 12/13/2002 8:42:18 AM PST by joesnuffy

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1 posted on 12/13/2002 8:42:19 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Bump for later reading
2 posted on 12/13/2002 8:54:46 AM PST by lelio
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To: lelio
Interesting, at least.
3 posted on 12/13/2002 9:00:52 AM PST by the_doc
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To: joesnuffy
Although I am sure that Dr. Faria is earnest and sincere in his writings, over the years I have found that he lets his ego become a conduit to promote his own publications and writings, which, if left to their own merit, would be successful anyway. He lets his ego get in the way. His ego is a turn off.

I get emails from either him or his wife all the time and they are designed to promote the selling of his books, and nothing more, rather than to espouse his political views.

He also has an obsessive/compulsive hatred of Cuba/Castro, which, no doubt, he should have since he is a "political immigrant" from Castro's Cuba but he should not let that control his life. Before you flame me for commenting on his anti-Castro beliefs please understand that I am anti-Castro and my wife is also a "poitical immigrant" from Cuba.

However, with all of that said I DO believe that he has some very valid points not only in this writing but in others of his writings as well. However, I hold the opinion that if true conservatives were to promote their true agenda they would be verbally assasinated by the left so they have moved toward the "middle" to reach a point that is politically acceptable to everyone.

When people ask about my political persuasion I usually answer by saying that Ronald Reagan was too far to the left to suit my taste. That statement usually is a topic changer which is all I wanted in the first place. :-)

4 posted on 12/13/2002 9:43:23 AM PST by PatriotGames
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To: joesnuffy
Does the new book unmask Bill's membership in the Illuminati, nefarious participation in the fluoridization of our water, and the vast conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?

Leave it to the JBS to (once again) make gigantic jackasses of themselves.

5 posted on 12/13/2002 9:49:58 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: joesnuffy
Gonna watch CSPAN now bump.
6 posted on 12/13/2002 9:52:26 AM PST by Badray
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To: Cincinatus
Well, hey, after November, 2001, the Democrats are mad.
7 posted on 12/13/2002 10:20:02 AM PST by xJones
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To: Cincinatus
Oh crumbs, that was November, 2002. What can I say, just another stupid Freaker.
8 posted on 12/13/2002 10:30:43 AM PST by xJones
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To: Free the USA; Fish out of Water; knighthawk; Grampa Dave; DoughtyOne; LibertarianInExile; altair; ..
fyi
9 posted on 12/13/2002 11:25:58 AM PST by madfly
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
What's up, HuskerBoy?!

FReegards...JayhawkMUD

10 posted on 12/13/2002 11:29:20 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: madfly
Would you believe that I am already in the middle of formulating my response but thanks for the ping to this and other articles.
11 posted on 12/13/2002 11:29:51 AM PST by Free the USA
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Prior to his suspicious death in 1949, Secretary of Defense James Forrestal had stated, "Consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If the diplomats who have mishandled our relations with Russia were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor."

Thanks to joesnuffy for the heads up and post, I'll try to tune this one in...
12 posted on 12/13/2002 11:50:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: joesnuffy
It is no wonder that JBS is rightfully considered part of the Lunatic fringe. The reason you don't hear the refrain that this or that violates the Constitution repeated over and over is because it is not an effective argument with the unwashed middle that must be persuaded to accomplish anything in our government. You can go off into you little corner and talk only with those who already agree and amuse yourself with thoughts about how enlightened you are but nobody outside your clique will understand or care.

I have noticed some changes in National Review after Buckley relinquished the editor’s role and it lost a little of its previous libertarian leanings and adopted a more conservative voice. I have found other Magazines that fit with my ideology a little better than does National Review but it has nothing to do with Buckley selling out.

To hark back to some grand old days when America could trade with but otherwise ignore the rest of the World is fine but has little relevance to the World we currently inhabit. The only chance we have to build a future where terrorist and wannabe Caesars aren’t constantly threatening America and our interests is for us to take the lead in shaping the World that we want. America plays the dominate role in the World today and whether we lead or even attempt to withdraw and hide others will continue to challenge us.
13 posted on 12/13/2002 11:52:53 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: joesnuffy
Let me state from the outset that for more than a decade, I was also an admirer of the intellectual prowess and elegant (although sometimes bombastic) writing skills of Bill Buckley. In fact, I have read (usually cover to cover) every issue of National Review from the mid-1980s until 1997, when I came to understand that, while the magazine was beautifully written and certainly intellectually stimulating, something was still missing, something I sensed was terribly wrong with the message it conveyed to conservative readers.

One of the final precipitating events came when the magazine printed Forrest McDonald's review extolling the book "The Long Affair" by left-wing internationalist Conor Cruise O'Brien that trashed Thomas Jefferson and his legacy of freedom.

I had similar experience - I subscribed National Review for 14 years until mid 1990's when I could not stomach their vicious slandering of Serbs. NR was my major disapointment, before I send them donations and bought subscriptions of NR to my friends. No more.

Now I subscribe to the much superior publication - Chronicles Magazine

14 posted on 12/13/2002 1:39:06 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: Free the USA
One thing I've always wondered about the JBS folks...if you really believe all the conspiracy stuff like many of them do, why would you join and organization that would so readily identify you to your foes? I mean, if, as some of them believe, that FEMA is building concentration camps to march conservatives and Christians off to, wouldn't the simplest way for the conspirators to find you be to subpoena the membership records of the JBS?

I mean, let's be smart about this. Since the government has all this power, they could simply read and trace all our e-mails, or they could even monitor this website, couldn't they....oops, er, I think I better log off now.... :)

Greg West
15 posted on 12/13/2002 1:45:14 PM PST by gregwest
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Good point and as I have commented on prior JBS threads if there was a massive conspiracy as JBS envisions then the best cover for it would be to create or take over JBS. Then misdirect attention with numerous whacko conspiracy theories so as to leave people confused and ready to dismiss a real conspiracy as more whacko nonsense.
16 posted on 12/13/2002 2:11:58 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: lelio
Likewise. Bump.
17 posted on 12/13/2002 4:07:05 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping.............I think. Hahahahahahaha!

.............so many things, which I thought were just happening, were actually being made to happen by sinister and deliberate forces..............

Boy, I don't know about this. Furthermore, I don't know if I want to go there. I do have to admit though that my mind sometimes wanders down some of these same avenues. However, when confronted with the amount of tinfoil I'd have to purchase.............This stuff is a real House-of-Mirrors that causes me to recoil when I try to incorporate it into a personal worldview and reconcile it with things I already know to be true.

Now, as for Buckley...................Two Words: Intellectual Drift.

I too have also been disappointed in NR, though I still subscribe and read it voraciously cover to cover. One of those telling issues that has caused me to pause in my total loyalty has been the almost total absence of any note of the illegal immigration tide during the whole 1990's. Only recently has the magazine started to even recognize that people are angry about THIS. Talk about taking the lead on a subject. Boy did they drop the ball. Likewise, many here consider the silence with regards to the continued flaunting of our sovereignty a sure sign of the internal rot of certain members of the conservative movement.

Yes, they are part of the Establishment now............but I'm not running out to stock up on Reynolds Wrap just yet.

18 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:54 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: A. Pole
I used to read Chronicles back in the late 1980s, but it was dull and seemed "out of touch" with current culture. I mainly enjoyed it for its Letter From The Southeast, written by some prof at the Univ of NC at Chapel Hill.

After 15 years, I canceled my National Review subscription this year. Too much war-mongering, remake-the-world, "National Greatness Conservatism." It's why I canceled my American Spectator a decade ago.

Currently, my favorite "right-wing" opinion journal is Liberty.

19 posted on 12/13/2002 8:46:39 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: joesnuffy
This year, the a local libertarian group here in L.A. hosted a JBS sounding speaker (the name of his group was the Individualist Research Foundation). He was totally off-the-wall. He believed that the Communists were still in control of Russia, and that Islamic terrorists were a Communist-controlled front.
20 posted on 12/13/2002 8:52:50 PM PST by Commie Basher
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