Posted on 12/11/2002 4:07:58 PM PST by RCW2001
Vaccinate, or don't. The fact that our society cannot decide such a question in time of war is a sign of deep, deep trouble ahead.
You're reading the chart incorrectly, as it indicates that the vaccine was introduced mid 1956.
I fail to see how the graph points out that the decline in polio was NOT from vaccination.
It had drastically declined from 1950 to 1952, and even more from 1953 to 1955. It rose slightly from 1955 to 1956, then continued to decline from there, prior to the vaccine. In fact, a rise from 1960 peaking in 1962 was caused by the polio vaccine itself according to Dr. Salk, discoverer of the polio vaccine.
Polio was a real danger in Indiana in the 40's and early 50's. Pools and swimming beaches would close because of epidemics, and my mother lived in fear that we would come down with it as the daughter of a friend of hers did.
When the vaccine was made available, parents made sure their children were given the shots; it was considered a miracle.
Now, 40 years later, cranks are using people's medical ignorance against them, to spin stories of conspiracy and malevolence about the procedure which has saved arguably more lives than any other medical procedure in history.
Part of the problem is that people have no experience with these diseases, which have been eradicated in America, due to vaccination. Diseases do NOT "disappear." They go in cycles, and a decline in polio for a couple of years means nothing, as the virus would resurface in an epidemic.
Perhaps you are old enough to remember widespread epidemics of chickenpox in your grade school. Some years there would be hardly any cases; the next year half the school would be absent. The years where chickenpox was infrequent did NOT indicate that the disease was in decline.
And cite your exact quote from Dr. Salk, please.
- In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 "Abstracts" )
If one could get a copy of the 4/4/77 Science magazine, it'd show exactly what he said. I'll see what I can dig up..
Experts in the field have stated that vaccinations don't work, and actually weaken the immune system. What you hear from mass media isn't necesarily the truth.
Part of the problem is that people have no experience with these diseases, which have been eradicated in America, due to vaccination.
Not if the vaccinations weaken the immune system, as has been clearly shown to be the case.
Diseases do NOT "disappear." They go in cycles, and a decline in polio for a couple of years means nothing, as the virus would resurface in an epidemic.
Diseases have declined due to improved sanitation worldwide.
Please do not complain when you are quarantined because there is an epidemic and you are un-immunized.
You never have given me an actual quote from Dr. Salk. I will check tomorrow to see if you have provided it.
By the way, I am not reading mass media for my information. The dates I discovered from the Iowa State Medical School site...but then I don't suppose you believe doctors, either.
Good night.
And probably other things I'd guess. But can it be proved conclusively that immunizations have had no positive impact upon the decline of diseases? If not then who's to say that they haven't helped somewhat even if the degree can't be determined. Then why is it that people should not be allowed to have that help if it is there and they chose to use it?
It's those that HAVE the disease that will need to be quarantined. And if you look at the historical data, it is those that HAVE been vaccinated that have a higher incidence of smallpox. You really should look into the links I've provided, if you really DO want the truth of the matter. If not, I guess that's your decision.
I'd say an excellent case can be made. In fact, just look at the historical data link that I've provided, you might just see that what I've been trying to say here is not just a wild assertion..
Then why is it that people should not be allowed to have that help if it is there and they chose to use it?
If is true that vaccines actually weaken the immune system thus DECREASING the ability to fight off disease, would you really still want it?
If you bothered actually reading my posts, you would have seen that the dates indicated are in relation to AUSTRALIA.
This guy is a crunchy, granola-eating, lotus-sniffing idiot.
LOL! Of course they will! Islam is the religion of peace (/sarcasm)
AT THE SAME TIME AS CONTINUING TO HAVE POROUS NATIONAL BORDERS, FAULTY US IMMIGRATION PROCEDURES, INABIILITY TO LOCATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS ALREADY HERE, HAVING HAD ALREADY MASSIVE TERRORIST ATTACKS PULLED OFF BY 19 FOREIGN GUESTS IN THE COUNTRY, AND A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION THAT THINKS ALL OF THESE FACTORS TOGETHER ARE SOMEHOW SUSTAINABLE.
We are in for big suprises. Big power goes overseas, starts punching people, gets a massive bloody nose itself because of a lack of territorial integrity that allowed the enemies it created overseas to come in and exact revenge.
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