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Move Over For Mexican Trucks On Our Highways
www.eagleforum.org ^ | 12-11-02 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/11/2002 1:00:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: NUCKLEHEAD
My point merely was that Ms. Shlafly's suggestion that Mexican trucks will be allowed to carry heavier loads than what is allowed for American trucks is ridiculous on its face.
41 posted on 12/11/2002 2:30:58 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
From the DOT......


International Information Programs
Washington File

Washington File

Text: U.S. Sets Safety Requirements for Mexican Trucks and Buses
(Action will allow Mexican carriers to operate throughout the U.S.) (1520)

The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) announced March 14 that it is establishing stringent safety requirements for Mexican trucks and buses operating in the United States under the provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

"The steps taken today will help ensure that all trucks, buses, and drivers entering the United States from Mexico meet U.S. safety standards and operate safely on U.S. roads when we implement the truck and bus provisions of NAFTA," said Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta.

Mexican motor carriers applying to operate anywhere in the United States will be required to have a distinctive DOT number, have their vehicles pass a safety inspection, and undergo intensified safety monitoring during an 18-month provisional period. In addition, Mexican commercial vehicles will be permitted to enter the United States only at commercial border crossings and only when a certified safety inspector is on duty.

The DOT regulations will also require Mexican carriers operating in the United States to have a drug and alcohol-testing program, a system of compliance with hours of service requirements set by U.S. authorities, adequate data and safety management systems, and valid insurance with a U.S.-registered insurance company.

The March 14 ruling is among the actions that DOT is taking to prepare for an expected opening of the U.S. border to Mexican truck and bus operations by mid-2002.

Mexican, U.S., and Canadian carriers will all be governed by the same safety standards when operating in the United States.

NAFTA originally called for access by Mexican and U.S. trucking beyond each country's border states by January 1, 2000. In 1995, however, President Clinton postponed this provision, which had the effect of limiting Mexican trucks to operating only in designated commercial zones within the U.S. border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.

A NAFTA arbitration panel concluded in February 2001 that, by so doing, the United States was breaching its NAFTA obligations. That same month, the Bush administration announced it would fully comply with NAFTA obligations regarding Mexican truck and bus access. Canadian carriers have been operating throughout the United States since 1982.

The full text of the DOT press release and fact sheet are as follows:

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Implementing NAFTA
DOT Sets Safety Requirements For Mexican Trucks, Buses in United States

The United States today took another step toward safe implementation of the southern border truck and bus crossing provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).  The U.S. Department of Transportation established tough safety requirements for Mexican motor carriers operating to and from the United States and required that all motor carrier safety inspectors, auditors, and investigators be certified. 

“President Bush and I are committed to extending the benefits of free trade throughout North America while ensuring that a strict and rigorous safety regime is established and enforced,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta said.  “The steps taken today will help ensure that all trucks, buses and drivers entering the United States from Mexico meet U.S. safety standards and operate safely on U.S. roads when we implement the truck and bus provisions of NAFTA.

With today’s regulatory action, Mexican carriers applying to operate anywhere in the United States will be required to have a distinctive USDOT number, have their vehicles pass a safety inspection, and undergo intensified safety monitoring during an 18-month provisional period, and provide supplemental safety certifications as part of the application process.  Mexican commercial vehicles will be permitted to enter the United States only at commercial border crossings and only when a certified motor carrier safety inspector is on duty. 

The regulations also will require Mexican carriers operating in the United States to have a drug and alcohol-testing program, a system of compliance with U.S. federal hours-of-service requirements, adequate data and safety management systems, and valid insurance with a U.S. registered insurance company.  The carrier’s ability to meet these requirements will be verified by a safety audit conducted by qualified U.S. inspectors prior to receiving provisional authority to operate to and from the U.S.

At least half of these safety audits, which are to be conducted by qualified inspectors, must take place in Mexico.  In addition to safety audits, all Mexican carriers granted provisional operating authority will undergo full safety compliance reviews during the 18-month provisional period. 

FMCSA intends to provide Mexican carriers educational and technical assistance before the border opens and as they apply for operating authority.

The rules announced today include requirements that meet terms in the Transportation and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2002, signed into law by President Bush on Dec. 18, 2001.   They comprise a final rule, three interim final rules and a proposed rule by the Department’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA).  FMCSA plans to publish similar rules later this year for all new entrant carriers who seek motor carrier authority to operate in the United States.

In companion documents, the Department’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration proposed rules and procedures that manufacturers would be required to follow to retrofit vehicles with certification labels, complementing FMCSA’s proposal that all trucks and buses operating in the United States carry labels certifying that they meet U.S. federal motor vehicle safety standards at the time of manufacture.

Today’s rulemakings are among the actions that the U.S. Department of Transportation is taking to prepare for opening the border for Mexican truck and bus operations, which is expected by mid-year.

Additional information about the five FMCSA regulatory actions posted at the Federal Register can be accessed at: www.fmcsa.dot.gov/.  NHTSA’s proposals are on the Internet at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ and a fact sheet is at www.dot.gov/affairs/briefing.htm.

The regulatory documents are in the USDOT docket (Docket Numbers FMCSA-98-3297, FMCSA-98-3298, FMCSA-98-3299, FMCSA-2001-11060, FMCSA-01-10886, NHTSA-02-11592, NHTSA-02-11593, and NHTSA-02-11594).  To be considered, written comments on the interim rulemakings and proposals should be sent to the USDOT docket facility before the date indicated in each document.  Comments should be sent to the attention of the specific document number, Room PL‑401, 400 Seventh Street, S.W., Washington, DC.  The rules and comments filed in each rulemaking are on the Internet and can be viewed there by searching for the docket number at http://dms.dot.gov/.  Comments also may be submitted electronically at this site.

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42 posted on 12/11/2002 2:34:06 PM PST by deport
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To: Tailgunner Joe
My view is that Presidente's Fox's drug lord employers have been complaining about the costs associated with the storage in Mexico of so much inventory and want to move it directly into the market place with a minimum of handling.

If you want to hear arrogant Mexicans whine, wait until they start getting arrested for overloaded trucks, speeding, safety violations, and attempting to bribe police officers. Fox and his henchpeons will scream to high heaven as they are imprisoned and their loads and equipment confiscated. These are the same arrogant bas**rds who won't extradite a Mexican killer to the US if he has to get up before 9:00AM while in jail.

I haven't yet figured where the ultra-left wing media will be on this issue. Will it cover every incident of Mexican trucker crime in an effort to embarass Bush or will it be like fairy crime against a normal person because he is, well, normal; something they'd never publish. The left wing media's pro-labor bias (hell, they ALL belong to unions) will cause them to craft coverage to please the Teamsters and this will be against cheap Mexican truckers and the crimes they commit.

43 posted on 12/11/2002 2:39:32 PM PST by Tacis
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To: american spirit
I635/ LBJ freeway, huh? I'll try not to go there...

Dallas is on my potential joblist as far as locations and whatnot, but I was thinkin about something as I was swerving and braking and cussing and sweating on 35W-- I was in a car that day but I bike, and I didn't see a whole lot of bikers around, probably because they all know better... Fair to say that Dallas ain't the most motorcycle-friendly city?

44 posted on 12/11/2002 2:40:05 PM PST by maxwell
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I am curious, are American truckers allowed to transport goods across the border into Mexico? I have heard rumors that American truckers pretty much have to turn their goods over to Mexican truckers at the borders, or pay hefty fees. I have no idea if this is true... just wondering???
45 posted on 12/11/2002 2:46:36 PM PST by exhaustedmomma
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To: Ramius
Hmm... Since when did Phyllis become this much of a stooge for the teamsters?

It's worse than that, either she's engaging in disinformation or she is parroting someone else's.

If the following reference:

The most tragic truck accident in Illinois history was directly caused by the Mexican driver's inability to understand English . . .

The direct cause was a part falling off of a truck near Milwaukee. here.
Or the English-speaking driver tried to drive around lowered gates. here.
If anyone cares to correct me, please do so. The above are the worst/most notorious truck accidents in Illinois in recent memory.
46 posted on 12/11/2002 2:49:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
My point merely was that Ms. Shlafly's suggestion that Mexican trucks will be allowed to carry heavier loads than what is allowed for American trucks is ridiculous on its face.

Exactly. Unless they want to buy permits like everyone else can. And they won't be driving unsafe equipment unless they want to be red tagged and shut down until it is repaired... and on and on.

47 posted on 12/11/2002 2:51:14 PM PST by NUCKLEHEAD
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To: maxwell
Due to the weather there are usually a fair number of bikes on the road, especially on weekends. The bikers I see are very careful and wary of the traffic pattern. There's not a lot of speeding and lane switching even though the freeways are in pretty good shape. When you get closer to a possible job decision let me know and I'll do my best to let you know how the traffic flows are in different areas of the Metroplex (Dal/FT. Worth).
48 posted on 12/11/2002 2:52:08 PM PST by american spirit
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To: 1rudeboy
Cool, We can agree to disagree, sounds reasonable to me....

"we don't know how many more trucks will cross the border"

Agree.

"....frequency of inspections will increase".

agree

"whether trucks are the preferred method...."

Disagree. I never said they were the preferred method.
The law of averages (Mexicans DO come over the border in trucks) backs my statement up nicely.

"do not know if.......will result in an increase in alien smuggling".
Disagree. Again law of averages.....past proven trends.

My point is the two (Mexican trucking / illegal smuggling) are linked, that's blatently obvious.

Mexican officials are notoriously corrupt. How easy would it be to smuggle a WMD into the heartland of our country on one of these trucks. Our borders are now a free-for-all, much to GWBs apparent liking. My nature is to err on the side of caution, sorry....that alarmist thing again :(

There is nothing in the article that states specifically that the increase of inspections will rise at the same rate as the increase of trucking under NAFTA.
I would say, again based on past performance, it won't.

NAFTA wants to completely do away with the inconvenience of international borders....to quote the elder Bush....."wouldn't be prudent....."
49 posted on 12/11/2002 2:52:33 PM PST by taxed2death
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To: american spirit
The mexicans have been crossing the US to reach Canada in both trucks and buses since 1995. If you were to spend very little time on I 35 or I 30, you would see one of these trucks.
50 posted on 12/11/2002 3:10:48 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: contessa machiaveli
The NAFTA arbitration panel found that the US's refusal to admit these trucks is a violation of NAFTA and is considered to be a "taking". The fine assesed for this violation is $ 2 billion per year, either in money or authorized retaliation.

Now, Mexico would never attempt to get actual cash because it would be bad PR. On the other hand, beginning Jan 1, Mexico is to open to US pork, chicken, and other items that are going to have substantial effect to Mexican producers. They could legally retaliate by not allowing these goods into Mexico.

51 posted on 12/11/2002 3:27:12 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I stop at a truck stop on I-30 every morning for coffee and have seen numerous Mexican truckers, some with rigs that look very well kept along with those that....don't look so good. Odds are we'll be seeing more incidence of accidents involving these folks, that's just a fact of life. By the same token there'll probably be more smuggling of people and drugs which has been going on for quite some time. The point is some unsuspecting families are going to be decimated at some point as a result of this next stage of our open border policy. It could be my family or someone else I know down here in Texas and the upshot is that if that were to happen then their lives would be sacrificed on the altar of NAFTA/OPEN BORDERS and for what reason...because some big-time players who may not even be Americans live by the "profit at all costs" philosophy and could care less about the future of my community.

The question I have is do we really understand the long term ramifications of actions like allowing Mexican truckers here. How many US truckers will lose their jobs down the road? Will there be lethal disputes along the freeways, or wildcat strikes disrupting food distribution...don't know, hope not, but we're creating a climate where all the above will come true someday.

52 posted on 12/11/2002 3:39:02 PM PST by american spirit
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To: american spirit
Regarding Safety: The Canada bound trucks are not creating any "decimation", why would these other trucks. The Murray- Shelby amendment sets the mexican standards identical to the US. The Teamsters dropped their safety objections because of the amendment. All the US border states have inspection programs that operate in addition to US DOT.

Regarding smuggling: the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank study found that 47% of the cross-border truck and container drayage traffic is empty. Allowing these trucks to cross the border will eliminate traffic by 50% making inspection much easier. 50% less congestion. 50% less truck exhaust.

As for jobs, there is no denying that there will be an impact, Especially for independents. But the mexicans will not be able to haul interstate or intrastate. International only. It is important to recall that it was the Mexican govt that first banned US trucks in 1982, to protect their trucking industry. The US banned mexican trucks in retaliation. The further away fom the border the mexicans go, the harder it will be to find a back-haul.

53 posted on 12/11/2002 4:18:22 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Another issue is that Mexican Truckers can fuel up in Mexicalli, Mexico with much higher sulfur fuels( to you environmentalist whackos- this means much more polluting fuels)and make it to the harbor in San Francisco, Ca and return all the way back down to Mexico before refueling.

One - this will increase the air pollution in CA.
Two- they are not paying road taxes which go to keep up the very roads they are making money on.

Also by 2004-2005 We must update our trucks with new less polluting, lower horse powered trucks. The Mexican truckers do not. And in fact as I update my fleet they are buying my trucks at a huge discount and will then be able to compete against me with my old higher polluting trucks.
54 posted on 12/11/2002 4:22:38 PM PST by Kay Soze
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To: Kay Soze
hmmm, sounds like a lose, lose situation. nothing good will come of it.
55 posted on 12/11/2002 5:19:57 PM PST by contessa machiaveli
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To: Tailgunner Joe
OK - I have a question---

Why is it that American truck drivers will line up to protest a 1 cent increase in the tax on diesel fuel, and will downright get organized and ugly for 4 cents, yet their lively hoods and reputations (and lives) are seriously in danger from these Mexican trucks, yet they seem to not care....

I have seen more than one Diesel tax defeated because of trucker action, why are they silent on this issue?
56 posted on 12/14/2002 6:26:15 PM PST by TheBattman
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