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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^
| 12/11/02
| WILL SENTELL
Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J
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7,001
posted on
08/21/2006 9:50:46 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Everything is blasphemy to somebody.)
To: PatrickHenry
Oh that's just cheating!
(Why didn't I think of it?)
To: RadioAstronomer
Have I spammed the thread enough yet? No, please continue. Fantastic stuff; I'm bookmarking it to use whenever somebody refers to conservatives as ignorant anti-science troglodytes.
To: PatrickHenry
had to spread your seed pretty far and wide to be sure of nailing that one, didn't you?
7,004
posted on
08/21/2006 10:49:43 AM PDT
by
longshadow
(FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
To: js1138; RadioAstronomer; tortoise
Can't speak for tortoise, but in previous encounters he has asserted the theoretical problem has been solved, but the hardware problem is difficult. My understanding is that the theoretical solutions that are publicly known require unreasonable amounts of computing resources, growing exponentially with complexity so Moore's Law doesn't help. There are efforts underway to create good approximations that can run on today's hardware.
Another approach is to simulate the human brain directly, and the hardware will be available for that within a few decades unless Moore's Law hits a wall. Estimates of the brain's computational power are around 10^16 operations per second. Blue Gene does 300 teraflops (3*10^14) today.
To: forsnax5
Silicon complexity and organic complexity are two different things... Anything our neurons do can in principle be done in silicon or software.
To: forsnax5
Silicon complexity and organic complexity are two different things... It's really not that the hardware is different. It's that we really don't know what we are emulating.
7,007
posted on
08/21/2006 11:14:32 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
To: PatrickHenry
Premature priming placemark
7,008
posted on
08/21/2006 11:21:43 AM PDT
by
dread78645
(Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
To: ThinkDifferent
Anything our neurons do can in principle be done in silicon or software.Including a variable rate of failure?
This harkens back to the concept that evolution is so successful in the way it works because it is an imperfect replicator. The brain is an imperfect computer.
7,009
posted on
08/21/2006 11:23:22 AM PDT
by
forsnax5
(The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
To: js1138
It's that we really don't know what we are emulating.I agree.
7,010
posted on
08/21/2006 11:24:59 AM PDT
by
forsnax5
(The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
To: longshadow
had to spread your seed pretty far and wide to be sure of nailing that one, didn't you?True, but when will another 7,000 come along? I hold the prime of all primes!
7,011
posted on
08/21/2006 11:31:24 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Everything is blasphemy to somebody.)
To: PatrickHenry
I hold the prime of all primes! "The Primate of the Galapagos Islands"
7,012
posted on
08/21/2006 2:30:22 PM PDT
by
dread78645
(Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
To: dread78645
Almost. Actually, PH is suffering premature prime-exclamation
To: ToryHeartland
PH is suffering premature prime-exclamation Probably explains why he's always grinning at inappropriate times ...
7,014
posted on
08/21/2006 2:58:25 PM PDT
by
dread78645
(Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
To: dread78645
Laugh all you like. But 7,000 will never come again. And it's mine. All mine! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
7,015
posted on
08/21/2006 4:00:27 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Everything is blasphemy to somebody.)
To: PatrickHenry
"Festival of the Brute Force Method of Capturing Large Primes" placemarker
7,016
posted on
08/21/2006 4:25:07 PM PDT
by
longshadow
(FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
To: longshadow
Lotta "prime envy" around here. 7,000 was a once-in-a-millennium opportunity; and it's mine. Deal with it.
7,017
posted on
08/21/2006 5:43:45 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Everything is blasphemy to somebody.)
To: PatrickHenry
BREAKING HARD....
"Poopy-head Uses Brute Force Attack to Capture Large Prime on FreeRepublic.com.
Women, Children, Minorities considered most at risk. Composite numbers in open revolt; Iran responds with military maneuvers. Film report at 11...."
7,018
posted on
08/21/2006 7:19:45 PM PDT
by
longshadow
(FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
To: PatrickHenry
Deal with it.Give me $5 or I'll dedicate my life to becoming an Admin Mod so I can delete all your "prime" posts at an unspecified future date.
I mean it.*
*(Sort of. Until I find something more interesting to do. Hey, a dust bunny - cool!)
To: PatrickHenry; dread78645
Laugh all you like. But 7,000 will never come again. And it's mine. All mine!As Floyd Landis prematurely announced.
Gentlemen, I have to tell you, this unseemly and utterly unsportsman-like tactic from Mr. Henry reminds of nothing so much as watching my 7-year-old daughter playing Chess against herself:
She hasn't the foggiest notion about the rules of the game, lacks an opponent, yet nonetheless always wins.
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