UNNATURAL LAW (Supremes to review sodomy laws) liberal barf-and offensive content alert

NEW YORKER ^ | 12/16/02 issue | Hendrik Hertzberg

[Texaggie79]

Many people of many cultural backgrounds, not just Christians, find sodomy abhorrant.

Then they shouldn't do it.

[Kevin Curry]

Then, by your own admission you don't know that gays got it first.

But we sure know how they got it the next 50 million times following the first contact, don't we?

The tissue of the lower bowel is thin and easily ruptured. It is not designed to be a receptacle for a male organ or for semen. That's common sense. Sodomy kills--slowly, surely, painfully. And the taxpayer cleans up the dead bodies and mess left behind.

And that, my "progressive" minded and oh-so tolerant friend, is the bottom line.

I'm glad you asked.

[Texaggie79]

Read both many times. Homosexual sex is a sin, yes. Sex outside of marriage is a sin as well..... so what?

It is almost like you are CHEERING for a painful death to homosexuals.

What you need to do is read your Bible and see that GOD will handle these things. It's not our government's place.

[FF578]

Another example of religious zealot ignorance. Common law crimes have been abolished in the United States. Only statutory ones remain.

LOL!!!!!! You are not serious??????

I am an LEO in North Carolina, so I can only speak for the law in North Carolina, but we have several Common Law offenses that we arrest people for everyday.

North Carolina General Statute: § 4-1. Common law declared to be in force.

Statute text

All such parts of the common law as were heretofore in force and use within this State, or so much of the common law as is not destructive of, or repugnant to, or inconsistent with, the freedom and independence of this State and the form of government therein established, and which has not been otherwise provided for in whole or in part, not abrogated, repealed, or become obsolete, are hereby declared to be in full force within this State. History

(1715, c. 5, ss. 2, 3, P.R.; 1778, c. 133, P.R.; R.C., c. 22; Code, s. 641; Rev., s. 932; C.S., s. 970.)

For a few examples of Common Law offenses that we enforce:

§ 14-87.1. Punishment for common-law robbery.

Statute text

Robbery as defined at common law, other than robbery with a firearm or other dangerous weapon as defined by G.S. 14-87, shall be punishable as a Class G felony.

(Notice there is no laid out definition of Common Law Robbery, the reason for that is that the elements of the crime are drawn from Common Law.) (Common Law Robbery is Robbery without a weapon, where force or intimidation is used in order effect the Robbery.) IE: Strongarmed Robbery.

NCGS § 14-177. Crime against nature.

Statute text

If any person shall commit the crime against nature, with mankind or beast, he shall be punished as a Class I felon.

(25 Hen. VIII, c. 6; 5 Eliz., c. 17; R.C., c. 34, s. 6; 1868-9, c. 167, s. 6; Code, s. 1010; Rev., s. 3349; C.S., s. 4336; 1965, c. 621, s. 4; 1979, c. 760, s. 5; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 47; 1981, c. 63, s. 1; c. 179, s. 14; 1993, c. 539, s. 1191; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)

(Notice Again, Crime Against Nature is a Common Law Definition, the Statute doesn't have a definition for what falls into this crime, The Statute only proscribes the punishment for breaking the Common Law Offense.)

A few other Common Law offenses are Going Armed to the Terror of the Populace.

By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others.

I am amazed at the utter lack of sense that you idiot libertarians have.

If you think the Common Law is not in effect here in North Carolina, I invite you to come and break the Common Law, Let's see where you end up.

I am sure that other states also still enforce Common Law.

[Texaggie79]

Let me get this straight - you seem to think that people should be able to do what ever -pleases them - as long as it is done in the privacy of their home - regardless of the consequences of who may be harmed in the process.

As long as they harm or endanger no one but themselves, friggin do it. It's not mine, or the government's business. Do you wish to ban bungee jumping? Mountain climing?

As for Russian Roulette, personally, I don't see any reason for government intervention as long as all involved parties are consenting ADULTS.

[concerned about politics]

Then, by your own admission you don't know that gays got it first.

They brought it to America. I don't really care about where it came from. The problem is now the homosexuals are still here passing it around, along with whatever infections and diseases they also carry.
BTW, IF there were ever a small pox outbreak, homosexuals with HIV will actually get small pox from the vaccine, but if they have a mutating virus already within them, what could happen to the small pox disease? I wonder if the HIV could mutate to something similar to pox, but different? That would make all vaccines to innocent people obsolete. Gee,there's a creepy thought.
Who knows what they'll create next. A mutating disease is pretty dangerous stuff.

[FF578]

I see that you are a "Vetern of UC Berkeley" It is obvious, your ignorance on the laws of the United States speaks volumes for that ultra-liberal institution.

Tell me, where did you get the impression that Common Law was not in force in the United States.

Did your Marxist Friends tell you that?

I don't Know about KALIFORNIA, but Common Law is alive and Well In North Carolina.

[SSN558]

"What right does the state have to control what my wife and I do in our bedroom?"

Playing devils advocate how is this for an answer. The state sold you a marriage license and they therefore hold all the aces in controling what you and your wife do in the bedroom or anyplace else as far as that goes. The relationship with your wife is only a matter of law and revenue collection to the state and nothing else.

[TheAngryClam]

The Supreme Court has ruled that common law crimes no longer have any effect.

Nearly all states have codified the common law crimes, in their common law forms. However, they must be codified. Common law crimes like "misprision of felony" and the like, which were/are crimes under common law, but were not incorporated into the various penal codes of the state, are illegal to convict for these days.

[TheAngryClam]

Also, that was undergraduate.

Ask me about my law degree.

[concerned about politics]

I have some bad news for you. An old friend of your has died. Have you heard? So sorry.
Harry Hay, a communist and founder of the first radical homosexual group in the U.S. died of lung cancer on October 24, 2002.
Harry Hay, a communist and founder of the Mattachine Society, the first open homosexual group in the United States died at the age of 90. I guess AIDs wan't big on his list. He never did recieve that badge on honor.
Hay started the Mattachine Society in the early fifties, naming it after a secret all-male society in Europe in the 15th century. Hay also designed it to function like a typical communist cell group.

[Txslady]

People assume it is common sense. Unfortunately I must disagree - We say teach – “about abstaining" or "having safe sex".... but what we don't teach is the specific facts about how sodomy is the most common form of contracting HIV and other forms of STD’s.

Aggie – I can see you arguing against the law based on privacy. What I don’t understand or maybe I should – is your ignorance on the issue of HIV as it relates to sodomy. If it is your preference – it may be your personal business. BUT, when children (just to name the innocent) catch HIV because of blood transfusions – your business becomes the business of Mom’s and Dad’s across the country. There are other forms of gratification – that harm for less people!

[concerned about politics]

Hay also started a group called the Radical Faeries, a loosely-knit group of homosexuals who are also involved in witchcraft and other pagan activities. One Radical Faerie web site describes this group as "anarchistic, communitarian," who engage in "free spirit rites, certain ritual practices, inspired by Wiccan and communing with each other and with Nature." It is a "networking of gentle men devoted to the principles of ecology, spiritual truth, and, in New Age terms, 'gay-centeredness.'"
The Marxist roots of the modern day homosexual movement has been well documented by conservatives over the years. The "gay liberation" movement that began in the 1960s, has matured into an aggressive and effective propaganda machine that has achieved many political and cultural victories, even with you here at Free Republic! Ironic, isn't it? Right here on a website who's goal is freedom and the end of political corruption. Who'd a thunk?

[Texaggie79]

Well that settles it, all homos are Marxists.....

[FF578]

Again you are wrong. I know for a fact we prosecute Common Law Robbery, Crimes Against Nature, and Going armed to the terror of the people for starters.

Please Cite A United States Supreme Court Decision that states NO COMMON LAW SHALL BE IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES.

That is what you are saying isn't it.

Again, I already cited North Carolina law on the Subject. NC Statute § 4-1. says that the Common law is declared to be in force.

I already showed you examples of Common Law offenses in this state.

Now Cite me a Supreme Court Decision.

[FF578]

BTW: Explain to me how people are Prosecuted for Common Law Robbery in North Carolina, when the elements to the crime are not codified?

How are people Prosecuted for Crimes Against Nature when the Elements are not Codified?

How about going armed to the terror of the people?

Each of these relies on the common law for the elements of the crime.

Tell me Mr. Law Degree, How does this jive with your supposed Supreme Court Declaration????

[concerned about politics]

Well that settles it, all homos are Marxists.....

Agreed. Birds of a feather flock...er....yeh, flock...together.

[Texaggie79]

You a marxist Justin?

[MattAMiller]

Send into the state, in triplicate, positions that you would like approved, under various circumstances and amount of wine inbibed. Please wait 3 to 6 weeks for response.

I recomend that you have a lawyer present at all times.