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UNNATURAL LAW (Supremes to review sodomy laws) liberal barf-and offensive content alert
NEW YORKER ^ | 12/16/02 issue | Hendrik Hertzberg

Posted on 12/10/2002 11:21:41 AM PST by Liz

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To: Texaggie79
That is bull#@$. It may be dangerous to those that practice it, but I'm not in that group so I am not threatened.

Maybe you don't think so, until they sue you or pass on some type of strange AIDs or antibiotic mutation to you. Look around. You're not immune from it either. You don't live in a bubble.

382 posted on 12/10/2002 6:58:31 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Texaggie79
You may not see the threat, but it is there. You think you can only be affected by these diseases by sharing a needle or sex, but it's not true. We had a healthcare worker come down with MSRP, which she got from a patient who got it from a hospital.

We've had two health care workers accidentally stuck by needles. Each time that happens it requires expensive procedures to insure they didn't pick up a disease. It adds to the cost of your healthcare insurance. And more and more companies are dropping health care insurance because they can't afford it.

All of our employees have to be vaccinated against hepatitis, yet another disease that was strenthened in the gay and drug communities.

And checking that blood costs time and money. Another cost imposed on the rest of society by the 1% deviants.

It's a direct cost to you. Look at the cost of your insurance and your taxes. Your insurance is paying healthcare tab for the working public and your taxes are paying for those that can't work anymore.

If you want smaller government, then support the sodomy laws. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

383 posted on 12/10/2002 7:00:22 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: concerned about politics
You do understand the health hazards associated with homosexuals?

Are you denying the health hazards in heterosexual promiscuity?

Is that good?

What? Your stereotyping? No, it is bad.

You don't mind being their medical funding slave..

I mind funding ANY MEDICAL help. The government has no right to rob me of my money in order to fund other's medical care in an inefficient manner.

It's a major public health hazard.

Not much more that hetrosexual promescuity. Oh, but straight people should be FREE, it is the fags that need to be imprisoned?

Antibiotic resistand staff infection came from AIDs patients.

Whoopty friggin doo. There are millions around the world infected through HETERO sex.....

What if a homosexual with AIDs worked in a restaurant and cut his finger while preparing your meal.

What if it was a straight person with AIDS? Why the #@$# should I care what his sexual preference is, if he/she has AIDS I would prefer not to be served by them.

What if a NAMBLA guy with AIDs got your sons consent. Would you then feel the same?

You are right, I only want non infected NAMBLA members to get my son's consent..... WTF?

Why should the man be forced to hire him?

He shouldn't be forced to hire ANYONE. So what?

384 posted on 12/10/2002 7:03:26 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
You don't want to sue, provided you live to be able to sue. You want safety.

If you want the government to outsource the inspection to the private sector fine, but it still takes a law to enforce the inspection.





385 posted on 12/10/2002 7:03:38 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Texaggie79
In fact, without a law forcing inspections, the markets would gravitate to uninspected meat because it would be cheaper.

The end result would be more sickness, higher health insurance bills, higher taxes and more individuals and lawyers suing meat companies.

Since insurance companies would then raise their premiums to meat companies. That would eventually raise the cost of meat to the public. Probably higher than the government inspection program ever did.

That why we have these laws, and thats why there is not an outcry against them. Because they serve the public's good, just like the sodomy laws.
386 posted on 12/10/2002 7:11:46 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
but it still takes a law to enforce the inspection.

Not so. If a private business chose not to be inspected by a reputable source, they would not have any buyers.

387 posted on 12/10/2002 7:12:41 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: What is the bottom line
Do you understand the health hazards associated with alcohol? If we're going to legislate on health issues, alcohol abuse, by measure of its harm to us individually and as a society, takes a far greater priority of place than the impact of gays in the transmission of STDs.

Wrong. AIDs funding and costs of searching for a cure cost America more than any other illness. It's was the #1 cause in Washington during the Clinton regime. Other lobbyists were furious that AIDs was put in front of cancer, heart disease, and birth defects and everything else. The funding is still there, and the world wants more!!
Then there's the AIDs babies. Innocent victims of sodomites. Seen the AIDs clock lately? It includes America, too.

You keep coming up with these left-oriented responses to problems. And again, that reinforces my contention that religious conservatives are very similar to fiscal liberals in many ways, and that only the gay and abortion issues keep them in the Republican camp.

Wrong again. AIDs funding and the homosexual Marxist agenda is on the left.
I believe in God, and read the Bible to understand it's logic. It's a deep book, but has eons of wisdom.
I never claimed to be a saint. Hell, if God lets me in to do nothing but polish the pearly gates I'd be happy.
The Bible teaches accountability and consequences of certain actions. Damn! It always turns out right!
A section called "Romans I" explains how the homosexuals killed themselves off. I'll be darned if it wasn't profetic. It's happening just like that today. Others, liberal whores and the like, will eventually die with them. This is just the beginning. AIDs isn't done mutating yet. Guess "God" planned this one out pretty well. He said he wouldn't be mocked. I'll bet you $100 he'll be right again.

388 posted on 12/10/2002 7:12:45 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Texaggie79
Not true. Do you really think the poor are going to pay extra for inspected meat? No. They are going to take their chances. And then they will end up at the hospital and you and I will have to pay for their care.

389 posted on 12/10/2002 7:14:38 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Texaggie79
You must have someone close to you who's gay? Your love for that person has closed your eyes or something?
I guess the best I can do for you is to say "I told you so" in advance.
As the old saying goes - "Those who have the eyes will see, and those who have ears will hear."
390 posted on 12/10/2002 7:17:30 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: DannyTN
In fact, without a law forcing inspections, the markets would gravitate to uninspected meat because it would be cheaper.

The cost would not be that significant. How do you think the BBB operates?

The end result would be more sickness, higher health insurance bills, higher taxes and more individuals and lawyers suing meat companies.

If you use logic, it would result in more accurate inspections and LESS sickness.

Because they serve the public's good, just like the sodomy laws.

My @$$ (no pun intended). Sodomy laws simply impower government to rule our private lives.

391 posted on 12/10/2002 7:20:57 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
empower
392 posted on 12/10/2002 7:21:06 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: DannyTN
Since insurance companies would then raise their premiums to meat companies. That would eventually raise the cost of meat to the public. Probably higher than the government inspection program ever did.

Some people aren't capable of deductive reasoning. They can't see potential consequences for some reason.
If dominos are lined up in numerous patterns, and the first domino is knocked over, the rest of the dominos follow the pattern, one after the other.
Some people cannot grasp the concept. They seem to think all the dominos will follow a straight line because they were told by someone they would.
They don't understand how dominos can can follow a different corse, and sometimes that course causes them to fall off the end of the table.
A wise person can look at the dominos and see where they'll head, where others are blinded by the idea they'll always follow the propaganda path, the path they were lead to believe, and the path they feel safest with - The "Politically correct" path - that ends up being the one that always falls off the table.

394 posted on 12/10/2002 7:29:15 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Texaggie79
The BBB works great for auto-repairs and air conditioners where the cost of failure is not that high. And where businesses can purchase membership in return for the marketing perks they receive.
But when it comes to health issues, you really want to completely avoid failures. When it comes to buildings, you want to completely avoid failures.

If someone could come up with a private organization that would reduce sodomy and the associated spread of disease and medical costs, I would gladly become a member of it.

But since there is no marketing benefit like businesses receive in the BBB, then there really wouldn't be an incentive for most people to join, therefore game theory predicts it wouldn't work. Therefore, you pass a law and fund it with taxes.

It remains the appropriate role of Government.
395 posted on 12/10/2002 7:36:20 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: What is the bottom line
An estimated 10% of the population is alcoholic. The impact on families, lost work, car accidents, increased health costs for that 10%, their families and employers, greatly exceeds the cost of AIDS medicines and research for the small percentage of the population which has AIDS (and which seems to be transmitted by heterosexuals iwth increasing frequency).

Let's see. WRONG AGAIN!
AIDs in America statistics - Avert.Org

396 posted on 12/10/2002 7:39:04 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Mr. Bird
Here is a medical reason…. Without using Richard Simmons or even God for that matter to explain why it is a good law.

Add to your list - The law of Nature and the fact this particular body part was created to get rid of waste. It was NOT created to have something forced into it going the opposite direction. This can cause serious medical problems. Tearing the tissue and subjecting the person to serious health problems… let alone the STD’s that have become rampant -because of this act… much worse HIV!

Some of you seem to think that the States have no right in enacting or keeping a law in regards to sodomy – have you ever considered the fact that it has cost States astronomically in Health care cost.

Don’t make it a law – if privacy is your worry– but from what I understand and have been told – you may as well play Russian Roulette your life.

I wish they would tell the truth about HIV instead of just covering it up – with a condom (no pun intended)

I know you were just using some humor and I even grinned when I read it – I have to say though – it gave me an opportunity to voice my opinion on a subject that a lot of people don’t seem to think is very serious. :o)
397 posted on 12/10/2002 7:39:11 PM PST by Txslady
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To: What is the bottom line
An estimated 10% of the population is alcoholic. The impact on families, lost work, car accidents, increased health costs for that 10%, their families and employers, greatly exceeds the cost of AIDS medicines and research for the small percentage of the population which has AIDS (and which seems to be transmitted by heterosexuals iwth increasing frequency).

You know what else? Alcoholism can be cured, unlike AIDs. Victims of alcoholics can also be saved.
Sodomites die. So do their victims. 100% of the time!

398 posted on 12/10/2002 7:45:31 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: DannyTN
If someone could come up with a private organization that would reduce sodomy and the associated spread of disease and medical costs

What about all the diseases passed through hetero sex? Oh that's ok by you.......

It remains the appropriate role of Government.

It is ONLY a role of the government when people's RIGHTS are violated. A man sleeping with another man violates your rights in no way.

399 posted on 12/10/2002 7:56:00 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: concerned about politics
You must have someone close to you who's gay?

Nope. I just refuse to let hate control my thinking.

400 posted on 12/10/2002 7:59:19 PM PST by Texaggie79
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