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'Finding' Rosie O'Donnell: The 'Rosie Empire' crashes in another celebrity's 'self-outing'
American Family Association ^ | 12/09/02 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 12/10/2002 6:39:14 AM PST by Buffalo Bob

For years, comedienne and television personality Rosie O'Donnell has entered millions of homes and brought smiles to many faces. Her national television show, 'The Rosie O'Donnell Show,' earned its top spot as one of daytime's top rated talk shows. Rosie has a wit about her like I've never seen in any other comic. She has a way of relating to people as just your everyday 'girl next door.' But as Rosie revealed to America back in March of this year, she was far from what we perceived. And unfortunately once again, the saying remains true: 'What goes up, must come down.' America has seen the rise and fall of Rosie O'Donnell. We've watched this funny woman from Long Island, New York, plagued with turmoil throughout her entire childhood - self-destruct. Yet in an attempt to try and resolve a lifelong inner conflict, Rosie made the fatal mistake that so many other celebrities have: openly declaring their homosexuality. For Rosie, that was the beginning of the end.

Today, the Rosie empire has collapsed. Her television show is over. Her short lived 'Rosie Magazine' is done, the publisher Gruner + Jahr now suing her for over 100 million dollars. Much of her traditional family fan base has abandoned her. Even the 'gay' community has not been there for her as she had expected.

Countless reports of depression, prescription medication and over eating fill the tabloids, with photos of Rosie which are less than desirable. Rosie sacrificed all on the altar of homosexuality.

Diane Sawyer, of ABC's Primetime Live, interviewed Rosie this past March of 2002. The two hour infomercial for homosexuality and 'gay' parenting was one of the highest rated shows of the year. Even if you missed the interview, the producers wanted to make sure they got their pro-gay propaganda across in the show's title, 'Rosie's Story: For The Sake of the Children.' (On a side note: ABC, owned by parent company Disney, seems to have a ‘special place’ in their heart for the 'gay' issue.)

Rosie followed her Primetime Live special with a second Diane Sawyer interview the following week, revealing more intimate details about her distressed past and a look into her sad 'present.' Rosie was clearly trying to tell America something about herself.

Her trip into Bill O'Reilly's 'No Spin Zone' gave us even a clearer picture of this woman's confused life.

Finally, in her autobiography 'Find Me,' Rosie gave us all the missing puzzle piece we needed: Rosie is still trying to 'find' herself.

Last week, much of the media celebrated the birth of Rosie's newest addition to her 'alternative family.' Kelli Carpenter, Rosie's live-in lesbian lover, gave birth to 'their' child Vivienne Rose O'Donnell on November 29.

Many Americans are naturally confused by the reassignment of the baby's last name. Those who are still trying to figure out this new ‘homosexual family’ thing are asking the question, ‘In her eyes, does that make Rosie the husband and father?’

Publicity photos of Rosie and baby were recently released to the media. Even conservative Fox News, so called 'fair and balanced,' congratulated the couple on the arrival of their new 'cutie patootie.' The lesbians are both legal guardians to Rosie's adopted child Blake and Kelli is seeking legal guardianship of Rosie's two other adopted children.

I'm sorry, but it never ceases to amaze me how far as a society we have digressed. Clearly, we are a nation in complete rebellion against the God of all creation. May He have mercy on us.

My heart breaks for this woman who is no doubt 'troubled.'

In her book 'Find Me,' Rosie alludes to some type of abuse (possibly sexual) by a male close to her. The broken mother-daughter relationship caused by her mother’s death traumatized Rosie as a little girl. This left a profound gaping wound inside which never healed. Her relationship with her father was not one to be desired. Several media outlets have also reported her brother is openly 'gay.’

Without question, her dysfunctional childhood carried over into her dysfunctional life today.

With all of her success, wealth and fame, Rosie still lacks something no money can buy: self acceptance. By publicly declaring her homosexuality, she was desperately hoping America would embrace her and say 'we love and accept you for who you are.' Then and only then, maybe she might be able to finally accept herself.

You see, I have a real heart and compassion for Rosie O'Donnell. It's scary how closely our lives parallel each other. I can honestly say, "I've walked a million miles in her shoes."

Almost the same age, we share the same backgrounds, same love for the theatre and the arts, same painful childhoods, same loss of mothers we both loved. Oddly enough, we both even have little sons named 'Blakie.'

As a former homosexual, I constantly strove for other's acceptance of my homosexuality in hopes I would someday be able to accept myself. Yet as a homosexual, self acceptance never came. And for Rosie O'Donnell, it never will either.

This is the crux of America's 'gay' rights movement. Homosexual men and women are demanding America's acceptance of their aberrant, unnatural lifestyle, in hopes they will be able to eventually accept themselves. Yet no matter what laws are passed, no matter what acceptance others may give, homosexuals will never be able to truly accept themselves. That's just not the way God made them. I know it, they know it and deep down, I believe Rosie knows it, too.

In 1992, my self acceptance came when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. My eyes were opened to the truth of the homosexual deception. The veil of wickedness was removed from my heart. I realized my countless ‘gay’ partners and my long term relationship with my male lover was no more than two men 'playing house.' Through God's Word, the Bible, I saw my homosexuality for what it really was: sin.

Today, I am no longer 'gay,' but very happily married to my wife of almost 10 years. We also have two beautiful little children - a boy and a girl. I am completely heterosexual, through and through - the way God made me.

God's message of love, hope and deliverance for the homosexual is one I have been called to the forefront of America to proclaim: that no one is born 'gay,' in most cases has everything to do with one's childhood and homosexuals can completely change.

As for Rosie O'Donnell, I know one day we'll meet and I'll personally share with her how Jesus Christ changed my life. I’ll tell her how much God loves her and how Jesus wants to set her free as well.

Rosie's freedom will not come from two lesbians playing house, adopting children together and pretending they are a ‘family.’ No, Jesus Christ alone is the answer Rosie is looking for.

How sad, yet prophetic the title of Rosie’s autobiography, Find Me - for that is exactly what God is asking Rosie to do.

“And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.” Jeremiah 29:13

God wonderfully made Rosie and created her for His glory. She needs to see her lesbian lifestyle for what it really is - a counterfeit and sin before a Holy God. Only then will Rosie 'find' herself - when she truly finds Jesus Christ.

I’m an optimist and one who believes in the life changing power of Christ. No one is too far from the reach of the love of God - not Stephen Bennett, nor Rosie O’Donnell.

Frankly, I’m looking forward to that next Diane Sawyer interview when Rosie comes before all of America and testifies how she 'found' herself - at the foot of the cross on a hill called Calvary. What a day that will be!


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To: madg
Evil runs from the truth like darkness from the light.

There is a way out. You can be helped.

61 posted on 12/11/2002 2:07:00 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: madg
you have proof of course that change is 100 percent impossible? You have omniscience enough to know that Bennet is just in it for the money? You do know that Paulk is still around, just heard him on Dobson not long ago, (hasn't been caught "crusing" since that night several years ago)apparently has written a new book and is slowly resuming a ministry again!

The propensity for Christians to stumble remains high despite our salvation, that is why Christ forgives"77 times 7". A repentant thief may lose his desire for theft for a time but Satan will seek to test him from time to time...the urge foir illicit acqusition may still remain part of his fleshly make up. A former homosexual will be the same, as will be a former heterosexual adulterer, a former money grubbing banker, a former gluttonous food lover, a "recovering" alcoholic, a former murderer who finds Christ and accepts his punishment, and all the rest of us who on occasion utter a "harmless" white lie in telling the screech owl of a soprano soloist how "well" she sang at church today("well"... it was moving any way...she sang with such..... such feeling!)

What would Mr. Bennet have to do to prove to you that the internal direction of his life has totally changed..the requirement that he bear his cross and "die" daily(ala James) not withstanding? Would you deny to Mr. Bennett the oppurtunity to be given someday that "incorruptible" body free of the power of the sin that he and God so deplores?


63 posted on 12/11/2002 2:10:33 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: madg
You've seen the truth. You choose to hide your eyes and try to justify what you know is wrong.

Oh, does it come as a surprise to you that homosexuals can obtain mental-health degrees and then try to use them to subvert the truth and expand their perversion? If so, I think there's a guy around here trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge cheap!

64 posted on 12/11/2002 2:14:06 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: madg
"You and I have wildly different opinions of what constitutes an 'alcoholic lifestyle.' Mine is that of a single middle-aged man who is a respected white collar professional and a responsible suburban homeowner. Gee, I don’t see any reason to leave THAT lifestyle… it’s virtually the American Dream. So what if I have an abnormal desire to drink alcohol -- as long as I'm paying the mortgage I can do what I want! Drunkophobes would like everyone to believe that 'alcoholic lifestyle' means skulking around bars at night, chugging rotgut whiskey right out of the bottle, puking, and beating our kids in fits of booze-soaked rage. Sure, SOME drunk people do that; but to suggest that that is the monolithic 'drunk lifestyle' is, at best, disingenuous. I myself drink at home, alone -- and I'm not hurting anybody but myself!

If an alcoholic man came up to me and said that he can’t stop drinking I would urge him to seek help. As for me, I can stop anytime I want. No, I definitely wouldn’t send him to A.A. -- instead, I’d tell him to find a qualified and unbiased professional... preferably a bartender... or at least find a support group in the alcoholic community (I suggest the fellas down at the neighborhood tavern) to make him feel good about his drunkenness. After all, God made him the way he is. No one should have to deny their love for alcohol just to fit society's narrow-minded prejudices!

The problem is one's frequency of drinking, not one's addiction to alcohol. Plenty of men and women work good jobs, drive, pay taxes, and raise families while utterly s--tfaced. Besides, A.A. is financially motivated (both from their website and from whatever books and stuff Alcoholics Anonymous sells); and that by aligning themselves with an extreme-right agendized political activist group, it appears that the motives of the self-styled 'former drunks' are political as well. The secret agenda of alcophobic Nazi groups like A.A. is to see laws against public drunkness enforced more strictly, and they won't stop until Prohibition is reinstated, and all drinkers are rounded up in camps to be turned into Sterno. Remember: Hitler hated drunks!

Furthermore, A.A. members present themselves as some kind of behavioral experts. Why? Because they avoid booze 'one day at a time'? Whoop-de-whoo. I couldn’t care less. I only get drunk when the urge hits me, and that's not necessarily every day. It's only when I feel like it. And if I feel like it at 10:30 a.m. on Monday, that's MY business.

The A.A. message causes much more harm than good. I don’t condemn them for their concern over alcohol-related diseases (although the idea that so-called 'heavy' drinking can cause liver disease is a MYTH spread by the Christian Fundamentalists). I condemn them for proselytizing a religious belief (their 'Higher Power') whilst lining their pockets and pursuing his political agenda at the expense of the drunk community.

We're here, we're drunk, get used to it! There's no such thing as a 'recovering alcoholic'; people cannot change who they are. God made some of us to like booze more than anything else, and I refuse to stay in the closet any longer. Drunk Pride!"

67 posted on 12/11/2002 2:46:14 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: madg
you quoted"Reparative and Similar Therapies: There are two methods that are still in use by which therapists and lay groups attempt to change sexual orientation: Reparative Therapy is an experimental and controversial secular therapeutic technique. Another consists of various religious and spiritual practices by Transformational Ministries. Many groups that practice these therapies estimate their "cure" rate at 70% or more. Many gays, lesbians, mental-health professionals, religious liberals and human sexuality researchers estimate a rate of adult sexual orientation conversion as equal to or near 0.0%. 4"


Well some one is lying if one group says a 70 percent cure another says no chance of a cure. How many gays and Lesbians are who see no need for "cure" are going to say that change is possible? The religious "liberals" and "human sexuality researchers" base most of their views on the Kinsey studies which have been shown to be to be at best extremely flawed in their methodology and at worst exhibitive of the worst pederasty and vile sexual abuse of children by the pediphiles and homosexuals whom the Kinseys employed as "workers" in their "studies". How many of the sexuality researchers, with predisposed biases are going to see that change is possible?

There is a misunsderstanding as to what repentance really is, among many people. Christians classically understand that all men are afflicted with sin and that sin may express it self in people in as many varied ways as there are personalitites in the world and as openly or as hidden a way as there are outward restraints and lawful checks on such expressions in the world. The Holy Spirit in a persons life over time provides an inner restraint to ones violent passions as the person learns to rest and listen to that inner voice and submits to its command. This doesn't make one perfect but it provides a "start over" point when one stumbles..."so that when he stumbles he does not fall headlong" PROVERBS

A sinner is cured so much as he stays with the cure...that is the blood of Jesus Christ. Certain inner maladies may be taken away immeditely...others to be borne by us as that"cross" that Christ exhorts us to bear daily. I have no doubt that Gays may be cured of their affliction, but as long as they exist in sin prone bodies, they may be subject to times of doubt and temptings, or many may never have that desire for same sex relations ever again. A former thief may still desire to steal but will never do it again. A greedy rich man may give up his wealth..but may occasionally desire money again...like wise the former drunkard may at odd times desire the taste of liquor but will not imbibe for the sake of his Lord and of the memory of what that life was really like! Like anything else it depends on the individual circumstances that God is working out in those individuals' lives!

It interesting to read Paul's take on homosexuality, it being born out directly to refusing to acknowledge God as being in authority, twisting knowledge of him(then by worshiping idols)and his laws. This flagrant rebellion was said to produce a darkened reprobate mind that produced the unnatural sexuality "men with men and likewise women leaving the natural use for the unnatural with one another" that hallmarks the Homosexual way of life. The nasty overly bold, almost bullying tactics the militant homosexuals are using against their opponents is outgrowth of their ultimate contempt for God and his authority.

But can they be reached, can they be "unbent"? I say yes as many former Gays insist that they can!



68 posted on 12/11/2002 3:01:22 PM PST by mdmathis6
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Even conservative Fox News, so called 'fair and balanced,' congratulated the couple on the arrival of their new 'cutie patootie.'

What is that supposed to mean? So called fair and balanced giving a congrats on a new baby without editorial? Then again the author seems to be the last one on the planet that didn't know she was gay

Oh well rosie sucks. Why was she in the flintstones? Betty was skinny. she should have played fred

69 posted on 12/11/2002 3:08:19 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: B-Chan
Hey how about greedy money loving CEO's....God made them that way,,,what's wrong with them earning more money off the backs of their low paid "serfs" in foreign lands while laying off "greedy" high paid American workers!

Or how about kickers of harmless mutts? Shouldn't they be tolerated too? After all they're not harming anyone, just some mutt on the street that will end up in the "back room" of the animal shelter one day anyway..and remember...God "made them that way"!


Loved your posting, nice points you made...I hope MADG got the thrust of it!
70 posted on 12/11/2002 3:12:57 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Buffalo Bob
I think it was fairly obvious that Rosie O'Donnell was a lesbian to anyone who cared to look.

The problem that she encountered is the same as it was for Ellen Degeneres - once she outed herself, she simply couldn't stop talking about her sexuality. In other words, she became that one thing even Hollywood can't tolerate: a crushing bore.

And that is why she's on the rocks, more than anything else.

Regards, Ivan

71 posted on 12/11/2002 3:14:04 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: B-Chan
Is your ignorance of A.A. intentional or are you just mis-informed?
72 posted on 12/11/2002 3:19:27 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior
Is your ignorance of A.A. intentional or are you just mis-informed?

He's neither mis-informed nor ignorant. He's showing how the alcoholic community would sound if they attacked A.A. in the same manner as the homosexuals.

It was a pretty funny post, actually.

73 posted on 12/11/2002 4:09:45 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: mdmathis6
...I hope MADG got the thrust of it!

Ahem, a most unfortunate choice of words, all things considered.

74 posted on 12/11/2002 4:10:39 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: madg
Claims that "complete change is completely possible," even though the chance of "changing" an exclusive homosexual into an an exclusive hetrerosexual is roughly 0.0% (zero point zero percent)... check.

Now I'm really confused. Do some people just have a "partial" homosexual gene ? Is this what you call a "bisexual" person ? If that partial gene can't mutant into a hetrosexual gene, you are saying its impossible for any gene to change, or only impossible for a "complete" homoesexual gene to change. Or, can this gene be changed. but not the gene that is "complete".
What do these genes look like under a microscrope ? If there are no genes in involved at all, what is it that makes a person homosexual, hetrosexual, bisexual ?
79 posted on 12/12/2002 8:14:08 AM PST by usastandsunited
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To: madg
Very funny.

Why, thank you.

A homosexual orientation is not an illness (like alcoholism), so your satire falls flat.

I beg to differ. Just as alcoholism is a perversion of the natural, healthy desire to consume alcohol, homosexuality is a perversion of the natural, healthy desire to have sexual intercourse. It is an abnormal psychological condition and was universally recognized as such until the Stonewall lobby got to the psychiatric community in 1973.

But there is one interesting similarity. My understanding is that there’s no such thing as an “ex-alcoholic,” they’re all “recovering alcoholics.” In other words, they still have a compulsion to abuse alcohol. Well, sexual orientation (homo-bi-hetero) is like that as well… you can’t just magically stop your attractions… and if the attractions are there, then the orientation is there. Ergo: There’s no such thing as an “ex-gay.”

I agree, but I'll go further: there is no such thing as a "gay" person at all. Just as there is no such thing as an alcoholic person -- there are only persons suffering from an unnatural desire to drink alcohol -- there is no such thing as a homosexual person: there are only people who suffer from the unnatural desire to have intercourse with members of their own sex. Constructed identies such as "the gay community" are patently fake -- a shared perversion does not a community make. One might as well speak of the "drunk community" or the "compulsive glass-eating community".

The problem of homosexuality is a problem of desire. Desire is a part of life, but, as rational beings, human beings have the ability to decide which desires they will satisfy. When a given desire becomes so strong as to dominate the behavior of a person, that person becomes a slave to that desire, losing control of their own existence and suffering the loss of that quality (rational choice = "free will") that defines a human person. By subjugating the rational will to mere physical desire, such desires upset the natural order of human existence, and thus are said to be "disordered": they injure the dignity of the human person by reducing a person to the status of an animal, a creature motivated only by momentary desire.

The desire for same-sex intercourse is by its very nature disordered: just as alcoholism is the result of a fundamentally disordered relationship between a person and his/her desire to drink, homosexuality is the product of a disordered relationship between a person and his/her desire for an unnatural sexual act The Catechism of the Catholic Church puts it best:

Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,[Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 124-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10.] tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.'[CDF, Persona humana 8.] They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
In other words: no one knows why some people have homosexual desires, but the reason why is unimportant, since the desire itself is intrinsically contrary to nature -- on a par with the desire to eat glass or stab oneself with a sharp object. The Catechism continues;
The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition."
Here we see the crucial difference between so-called gay-haters and the Catholic Church: the Church, while condemning the sin, always maintains a loving respect for the sinner. The Church recognizes that just as some people are, for whatever reason, unable to control their desire for drink, others are unable to control their desire for homosexual relations.

But for the person afflicted with such a disordered desire, Christ offers healing:

Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
Here we see the congruency of homosexuality and alcoholism. Just as a drunkard is called to recognize that only reliance on a Higrer Power (God) can subjugate his unnatural desire for booze, a sodomite must rely on the power of God to help him subjugate his desire for sodomy. In both cases the desire ( = orientation) does not disappear; it is merely restored by the grace of God to its proper (=ordered) place as the servant of the rational will rather than as its master.

In short: the desire for homosexual behavior is not a sin -- only the surrender of the Will to that desire. To voluntarily give in to disorder desires -- for booze, for power, for sexual pleasure -- is the sin.

"Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and HOMOSEXUAL practices. " [CCC 2357-59; 2396]
In other words: "Hate the sodomy; Love the sodomite".

Best,

B-chan

80 posted on 12/12/2002 8:20:23 AM PST by B-Chan
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