For a Palestinian State - in Saudi Arabia

Arutz Sheva ^ | 09 December 2002 | Jack Engelhard

[Catspaw]

Thanks so much. My memory was foggy about the details surrounding the attempted overthrow of King Hussein by the Palestinians.

[thatdewd]

You are most welcome. Sorry if I overloaded the story a bit (I tend to do that sometimes). It really was just a synopsis, but I wanted to give a decent one since there might be others who were completely unfamiliar with the story. It amazes me how succcessful the revisionists have been in regards to the 'palestinians' and their true history. I used your question as an opportunity to inform others that might come along later.

[Catspaw]

No problem at all. When posters say, "send the Palestinians to Jordan," they may not know the history between Jordan and the Palestinians and why Jordan doesn't want any more Palestinians than they already have.

It is ironic, though, to see that Yasser hasn't changed one iota between 1970 and 2002.

[XBob]

"It amazes me how succcessful the revisionists have been in regards to the 'palestinians' and their true history."

boy is that right. I remembered some of the stuff, except the part about black september, and I tried to find this history under history, mid-east, palestine, jordan, etc, all the standard places and just couldn't find it.

You did miss the part about the Pali's trying to kill King Hussein several times though, and then being driven out to Lebanon, where they destroyed the whole country.

[Light Speed]

An interesting paralell from times past.
There are those in the academic community..those who study time lines and ancient correspondances from many nations who do see a collection of peoples on a migration...linked intime to a convulsion in the region which saw many peoples on the move..and collapse of some kingdoms.

The Amalakites are the Hebrew name for the tribesmen who came from what we call Saudi Arabia today.
They attacked the tribes of Israel first after the Egyptian Army was thwarted in its persuit.
At heliopolis was discovered an account of the Egyptian Pharaoh who was killed in a battle of celestial drama...but clearly it was a failure...afterward...the Kingdom of Egypt collapsed.
Records of this collapse are to be found in several Papyrus records...most notable .."Papyrus Ipuwer"..which conveys the utter ruin that befell Egypt.
Egypt is attacked by a collective known as the "Hyksos"...although a matter of debate still...some see the Hyksos as an Amalakite federation.
Several hundred years passed before the Hyksos rulers where thrown off by the Egyptians.
The Hyksos have been branded the Israelites...but historians know that no such Israelite confederacy existed in numerics to defeat Egypt nor rule them for hundreds of years.
debate to as to how the "Hyksos" were able to overthrow such a jugernaught as Egypt.
The answer lies in such records as Papyrus Ipuwer.
Some have said that a series of tremendous earthquakes occured..couple with drought...Egypt losts alot of its populce due to their structures falling on them....while the Israelites lived in tents.
some have conjectured a mix of meterotie impacts..and gravametrics from a passing comet....here is some mechanics which makes sense..as the historic record shows mass calamity in the mid east...kingdom collapses...and mass migration.
The Amalakites were on the move because of this..and slammed into Israel.
Discovering how badly damaged Egypt was...they went for her..and were most violently brutal in the process.
To the Egyptian...the Hyksos are hated...over time...that has been transmuted upon Israel...and yes..some Egyptian scholars admit this...that Israel did not sack Egypt.

Spring ahead several hundereds of years..and we find correspondence between the Egyptians and the Israelite king Saul...whose ancient name was "Li'byhu"..or the Lion.
The ancient Israelite records mention Saul fighting the Amalakites..and going to a certain regional boundry to defeat them.
What gets wild here..is that the Egyptians have records which reveal a temporary coalition..where the Egyptian Army fought with "The one"...near a city and a river...and defeated the Hyksos.
analysis of "The one" reveals foundation that it is infact...King Saul.
The Egyptian record restores emphasis to Pharaoh for the victory..but the one is made mention of in the lesser..what locks this in...is who was able in that time period to help Egypt...and who had a History with each other.
Now in our time..we find the same spirit of the Amalakite moving at Israel...in Lebanon..before the PLO and Hizbullah...there was "Amal" .
Israel helped the Jordainians during Black Sept...Nixon gave the OK...IAF Phantoms turned back a very large mechanized armor coloumn heading out of Syria to Amman Jordan..with Russian advisors to help the PLO.
I believe this is not the first time Israel has helped a nation in the region,who was at a point in time prior...hostile to her.

Have a book with the "guts" of Papyrus Ipuwer trans to English..its an amazing record.

[thatdewd]

You did miss the part about the Pali's trying to kill King Hussein several times though, and then being driven out to Lebanon, where they destroyed the whole country.

You're right. I only mentioned one attempt, and completely left out the key part: expulsion. Expulsion, hmmmmm.....

[greggy]

The reason that the Palestinians are fighting is not for land, but to keep the word of God from coming to past, that the Jews settle the West Bank as God told them to do.

The reason that the UN exists is to form a one world goverment which stands opposed to God's order of many sovereign nations.

The reason that the European Union has come into existance is to bring forth the Anti-Christ.

Notice that each of these groups opposes Israel.

The reason God brought forth America is to form a super power to bless Israel and accomplish God's plans and purposes for Israel.

The reason God brought forth President Bush is to bring forth a Christian who will listen to God and bring forth His will for Israel.

The reason America is now number one in the world is because we are Israel's number one ally and God promised to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. God has certainly blessed America above all other nations.

Do you see the hand of God?

[thatdewd]

The Old Testament records repeated alliances between Israel and the Egyptians. It was a one-way street unfortunately. Every time (if I remember right) Israel relied on the Egyptians to back them up, the Egyptians were a no-show. Lately, Jordan has actually contributed a lot more to helping Israel with the palies than most people realise. Of course, if Jordan really wanted be 'friends', she could take her former residents back...

[Light Speed]

It will intersting to see what dynamic unfolds when Saddam goes bye bye..and America is in the region for a time.
Will money from our "Lousy Saudi Allies"..find its way to destabilizing Jordan.
Support for the cause from Iran via Hamas..Hizbullah and the Palestinians.
Revenge and Spite is a huge machination with the Arab...maybe some of that generational Hashemite hatred might surface...finding its momentum focus..because U.S.,Israel and Jordan are in a tenative framework for a future Palie state.

[Non-Sequitur]

If that isn't enough land for your precious terrs, then I can presume you are ready to offer them Michigan.

If I were to offer them Michigan I wouldn't expect them to accept that any more readily as they would accept your assinine plan. The fact is that they are there and they don't want to leave just because you want them gone. You can call me all the names you want and it isn't going to make your problem go away or make your solutions any less ridiculous.

[Non-Sequitur]

You don't have a plan, either. You just pretend you do.

[Non-Sequitur]

This thread is about a nutcase with an insane vision where in his perfect little world, three million Palestinians will voluntarily leave their homes in the Occupied Territories and migrate to Saudi Arabia, where they will overthrow the existing government and make Arafat king. And Arafat's gratitude to the Israelis who made this possible will know no bounds, and there will peace and good will for all mankind. And you think I'm the one who needs to find some brains?