The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy

The Birdman.com ^ | 12-01-2002 | Heather Pringle

[blam]

Thanks, I was going looking for these.

The baby was buried in the same grave a short time after the two adults. The baby is believed to have been their baby and was buried with a sheeps nipple that was used to keep it alive after they died of some disease.

[blam]

Who Are The Hakkas?

I believe the Hakka are descendents of the Xiongnu and the Han, both a combination of Chinese and Caucasians....I also believe the Picts may have come from some combination of the above.

[LostTribe]

>it could have come straight from the pages of Dr. Seuss.

Looks like you found another one, Blam.

[VadeRetro]

She said that the 2,000BC fabrics discovered on these mummies were just like those discovered in Hallstadt, including, style, materials and production method. There has to be some very close relationship.

Hallstadt is later and identified with the Celts, but there's no real problem with that. The weaving technology can be older.

[jimtorr]

Now I've recalled that when I was studying Chinese-Mandarin many years ago, the instructors at that time in that school all had earned at least masters degrees in the Chinese language and a few in Chinese history. One of them was one of the foremost calligraphers outside of China.

They all of them studied in Chinese universities on the mainland and escaped China before 1949. They mostly came from old scholarly families.

This is significant because they each of them said that in the old educated families it was common knowledge that the center of the majority Han tribal peoples had slowly drifted east over the millenia. Xi-an, in central China, had been their capital until the Mongols conqured China and made Beijing their capital. Before that, they said, the capital was even further east.

[freedom9]

I'm trying

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Excellent post!

Oh dearest nopardons! A red-headed Tocharian ping to you! Thought you might find this an interesting read. Enjoy!

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Some have theorized that the nearby Pamir Plateau is the real origin of the Indo-Europeans, and not the Caucausus Mountains. I believe this was a relatively especially popular theory among late 1800's scholars.

[blam]

(It's pretty clear to me that the Xiongnu are Chinese speaking Caucasians)

"....The wars between the xiongnu "Han" kingdom and Jie, and the downfall of West Jin caused the southward migration of the Han tribe. And this was thought to be the first major maigration of Hakka (Lo Hsiang Lin). Jie ½~ tribe have high nose bridge and deep eye sockets, easily recognized. When Shi Le's nephew became the emperor, a Han general Ran Min ¥T ¶{ overthrew Hou Zhao and slaughtered all people with high nose bridge. This indicates an extreme ethnic conflict existed between the Han and non-Han at that time, close to the ethnic cleansing we see today in Bosnia.

It is likely that to avoid genocide, some Xiongnu disguised as Han and move to the south with the Han. Many Han aristocrats also had hundreds to thousands of Xiongnu servants and soldiers. However, Jin dynasty is a period with highly distinct class difference. It is difficult for someone with a clearly distinct physical feature to infiltrate Han even as a civilian unless there was some inter-ethnic marriage or affiliation with the Han aristocrats. It was almost impossible for a xiongnu to become a nobility among Han. The number of Xiongnu who could mingle with Han and fled to the south could not be in great number. Culturally speaking, although Liu Yuan was totally Sinicized (Hanized), most of the Xiongnu inhabitants in central China could not have received the kind of education. It would be quite amazing if the Xiongnu decendents could upbring so many famous names like Han YuÁú ·U , Wang YangMing ¤ý ¶§ ©ú , Zhu Xi¦¶ ¿Q ...."

[BlackVeil]

Bump for later reading.

[nopardons]

Thanks for the ping ; even though you meant it snidely.

As a matter of fact, I know all about these mummies ; have done, for years. There are two documentaries, about this site, that I know of, and are very interesting. Do try to see one of the many repeats, the next time it's shown. You'll learn quite a lot more, about these people, than is contained in the posted article. ENJOY ! ;^ )

[nopardons]

Have you seen the documentaries, about these mummies ? Isn't this the one, where the red headed, high priestess with the " witches hat " , was also found ? Or is that the companion film ?

[Amelia]

bump to read later...

[blam]

"Have you seen the documentaries, about these mummies ? Isn't this the one, where the red headed, high priestess with the " witches hat " , was also found ? Or is that the companion film ?"

I've seen most of these. I think there are three 'witches' with these tall 'hats'. Mair (and company) can't figure out how they got the 'hats' to stand up straight, they're made of felt.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

The connections Mair draws remind me of the theory of L.A. Waddell regarding the direct interconnections between the Sumerians, Indo-Aryans, Hittites, Phoenicians, Trojans, Britons, Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Scots, Goths, and Norsemen.

One of Waddell's evidences is the similarity of dress, and the similarity relies upon items that reappear her in Mair's work - conical hats and woven cross-patterned garb. Waddell's conclusions were that the Hittites and Phoenicians were one and the same, that the Trojans were also the same group, and that Brutus the Trojan, the founder of the Britons and their first King in Britan around 1100 BC had journeyed there because of knowledge of pre-existing Phoenician mining settlements in Cornwall and elsewhere.

Of course, Waddell's works are now consigned to the Memory Hole, and the official histories of Britain begin with Julius Caesar "discovering" them in 55 BC, thus ignoring the ancient king lists going back to Brutus and antiquity. This state of historical destruction makes it difficult to understand some Shakespearian works like King Lear (a pre-Roman Briton King), the pre-Roman origins of London and other cities, and certainly obscures the history of the female figure Britannia and the name Albion.

[gcruse]

A long read but I read every word. I love this stuff. Thanks for posting it, blam.

[blam]

"A long read but I read every word. I love this stuff. Thanks for posting it, blam."

You're welcome.

[nopardons]

Yes, I've seen these shows, many, many times; read the books as well.

Felt will stand, when stiffened, I bet they use a flour paste, back then.

[nopardons]

The whole " Britan was founded by Brutus " theory, was connieved, by the chronicolers, to make the Normans think that even though they took over, in 1066, the Anglo-Saxons had a better liniage. Do read more than Waddell, dear. :-)

Oh, and there you go again ! What's with the garbage, that Julius Caesar " discovered " Britain ?

Have you ever actually studied the Hittites ? They didn't dress anything at all like Celts and had a completely different culture; not to mention phsiognomy!